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Milwaukee = Ryobi? SparkyGuy 05-09-2007
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Posted by SparkyGuy on May 9, 2007, 12:30 pm
<http://www.ttigroup.com/business/brands.php?PHPSESSID=f7fbd3dd60bdf5aa3e07dae
76124a967>

The design may be different, but they are manufactured by the same Chinese
factory.

Reluctantly, I'm taking Milwaukee off of my preferred list of tool makers.
(It's getting pretty short!)

Sparky


Posted by dpb on May 9, 2007, 1:38 pm
> <http://www.ttigroup.com/business/brands.php?PHPSESSID=f7fbd3dd60bdf5a...
> The design may be different, but they are manufactured by the same Chinese
> factory.

Not so...see

http://www.milwaukeetool.com/us/en/about.nsf/vwPages/headquarters-and-facilities?OpenDocument

> Reluctantly, I'm taking Milwaukee off of my preferred list of tool makers.
> (It's getting pretty short!)

Suit yourself, but it's a shortsighted and uninformed choice.


Posted by Chris Lewis on May 9, 2007, 2:48 pm
> > <http://www.ttigroup.com/business/brands.php?PHPSESSID=f7fbd3dd60bdf5a...
> > The design may be different, but they are manufactured by the same Chinese
> > factory.
>
> Not so...see
>
>
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/us/en/about.nsf/vwPages/headquarters-and-facilities?OpenDocument

Er:

http://www.ttigroup.com/customPages/Milwaukee.php?PHPSESSID=f7fbd3dd60bdf5aa3e07da76124a967

Quote:

Techtronic Industuries acquired the Milwaukee. brand and businesses in 2005

TTI (HQ'd in Hong Kong) _owns_ Milwaukee. And, AEG, Ryobi, Hoover and Dirt
Devil.

Then from

http://www.milwaukeetool.com/us/en/about.nsf/vwPages/headquarters-and-facilities?OpenDocument

Quote:

Milwaukee's power tool and accessories are also manufactured to its exacting
standards in modern facilities in Europe and throughout the world.

I think "throughout the world" probably includes China.

As with most consumer products, there really are only a few companies making
them. There's often quite a difference between the brands. Other times,
none at all.

--
Chris Lewis,

Age and Treachery will Triumph over Youth and Skill
It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.

Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on May 9, 2007, 4:30 pm


> Er:
>
http://www.ttigroup.com/customPages/Milwaukee.php?PHPSESSID=f7fbd3dd60bdf5aa3e07da76124a967
> Quote:
> Techtronic Industuries acquired the Milwaukee. brand and businesses in
> 2005
> TTI (HQ'd in Hong Kong) _owns_ Milwaukee. And, AEG, Ryobi, Hoover and
> Dirt Devil.
> Then from
>
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/us/en/about.nsf/vwPages/headquarters-and-facilities?OpenDocument
> Quote:
> Milwaukee's power tool and accessories are also manufactured to its
> exacting
> standards in modern facilities in Europe and throughout the world.
> I think "throughout the world" probably includes China.

And that may or may not matter. Just because it is made in China does not
mean it is low quality.



Posted by dpb on May 9, 2007, 5:15 pm
On May 9, 1:48 pm, cle...@nortelnetworks.com (Chris Lewis) wrote:
> > > <http://www.ttigroup.com/business/brands.php?PHPSESSID=f7fbd3dd60bdf5a...
> > > The design may be different, but they are manufactured by the same Chinese
> > > factory.
> > Not so...see
> >http://www.milwaukeetool.com/us/en/about.nsf/vwPages/headquarters-and...
> Er:
> http://www.ttigroup.com/customPages/Milwaukee.php?PHPSESSID=f7fbd3dd6...
> Quote:
> Techtronic Industuries acquired the Milwaukee. brand and businesses in 2005
> TTI (HQ'd in Hong Kong) _owns_ Milwaukee. And, AEG, Ryobi, Hoover and Dirt
Devil.
> Then from
> http://www.milwaukeetool.com/us/en/about.nsf/vwPages/headquarters-and...
> Quote:
> Milwaukee's power tool and accessories are also manufactured to its exacting
> standards in modern facilities in Europe and throughout the world.
> I think "throughout the world" probably includes China.
...

And from the link I previously posted -quote -

"Milwaukee is headquartered in Brookfield, Wisconsin, which is also
home to research, new product development, manufacturing support,
marketing, sales and information systems. It has modern production
facilities in Greenwood, Jackson and Kosciusko, Mississippi;
Blytheville, Arkansas and Matamoros, Mexico.

Milwaukee's power tool and accessories are also manufactured to its
exacting standards in modern facilities in Europe and throughout the
world. In 2001, the Milwaukee brand was launched in Australia by
Milwaukee's sister company AEG, located in Winnenden, Germany and was
re-launched in Europe and the rest of the world in 2002. ..."

I didn't say the were _only_ made in US, and, if you'll note the quote
you posted includes the key world "also". It's pretty clear the
products for SE Asia/Australia/etc. markets are produced outside the
US and the European are at least partially produced there.

If you'll also look at the TTI web page you'll find a message that
brand loyalty and identification is a key business strategy and that
they have a very deliberate idea of marketing to the full range of
customers and price ranges as an overall company and that all products
are not designed for all markets.

Search for a thread only a few weeks ago where I posted a significant
more detailed analysis in response to another poster's questions about
Milwaukee. There's quite an interesting story in there as I learned
while doing quite a bit of research a year or so ago in order to
evaluate the company as investment opportunity/merit...they're not the
ordinary stereotypical "Chinese startup" kind of outfit by any means
despite having some production in China and Ryobi being their initial
product...



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