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Mold on exterior sheeting that has been exposed for 6 years Autumn 02-03-2007
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Posted by Autumn on February 3, 2007, 10:48 am
We just purchased a cabin that is just framed in and the outer sheeting
(pressboard plywood) is on. The roof is on and there are overhangs which has
helped protect some of the wood. It has been exposed to the elements as is
for 6 years. Some of it has turned a little black, as wood does exposed with
no finish on it, but the wood is strong and not flaking or rotted. It is out
in the open so well exposed to winter snow and summer sun. We need to decide
if we should replace the sheeting before putting the siding on. We have had
several opinions - keep it and replace it and now we don't know what to do.
A builder said there is so much glue in the sheeting that if it is mold it
would not have penetrated it. Not sure I believe that.

I am allergic to mold. Because of this we are wondering what we should do?
Some have said scrub with bleach, some have said replace. I also thought of
power washing, but was told this would tear the pressboard apart. I thought
of sandblasting with a home sand blaster I saw for removing paint, thinking
this may be able to be adjusted. Just looking for opinions and ideas. Also
thought of painting it to seal it. Is this a bad idea? Does it need to
breathe?

The cabin has half log pine siding waiting to be installed over the
sheeting. We plan to use Tyvek under it. Although I just don't want to take
a chance with mold, we would also like to avoid the labor and expense of
tearing off all the exterior walls and replacing them. We are torn as to
what to do. The interior will have insulation, drywall and probably some
sort of wood paneling or planking for the walls. We want it well insulated
against the winter weather and summer heat. The cabin is in an area where it
is exposed to heavy snow and very cold temperatures in the winter, as well
as sand and hot and sometimes humid in the summer.

Any thoughts welcome...

Thank you

Autumn





Posted by DanG on February 3, 2007, 12:55 pm
Please, please, please don't fall into the "scare story"
syndrome. There will be some here that will quickly jump into
that category.

I deal with these issues professionally and I am fairly well read
on the issues. Please do not take my word for it, and don't take
the word of alarmists. There are many sources for good technical
information, but this one is especially good and comes from a
fairly believable source:
http://www.epa.gov/mold/i-e-r.html#Remediation
Please read the entire article.

Mold exists.
Mold has always existed.
Mold will continue to exist.
It is in the air all around you and on everything you touch.
Maybe the boy ( A John Travolta movie) that lived in the special
bio tent was free of mold, but the rest of aren't.

Mold can become a problem for humans when it is actively growing.

Black stains on exterior wood exposed to the sun is exactly that -
black stains. It may be rust from nails, some may have been
caused by mold, or other discoloration.

Bleach kills mold and there are commercial mildewcides/biocides.
It is not typically considered productive to kill mold. Any mold
that you kill with bleach, etc will be replaced by new mold. Mold
can only grow if it has food, water, proper temperature, and dark
(hidden from UV). If you remove any of these, especially the
water/humidity source, the mold can't grow. It is still there in
a dormant condition, but not actively growing.

The builder was telling you that the way wafer board and other
man-made sheathings are made is to saturate the chips, dust, by
product or whatever with resin and press and cook them into
sheets. Is it 100% mold free?, probably not. There are some
newer exterior sheets and drywall that are impregnated with
borates and/or other mildewcides or biocides.

If this thing is exposed to the sun and the walls are dried out, I
wouldn't pull it off. If you would feel better spraying
everything down with bleach or other biocide, do so. Please read
the EPA or other technical source information and make intelligent
decisions. Don't knee jerk to scare mongers.

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> We just purchased a cabin that is just framed in and the outer
> sheeting (pressboard plywood) is on. The roof is on and there
> are overhangs which has helped protect some of the wood. It has
> been exposed to the elements as is for 6 years. Some of it has
> turned a little black, as wood does exposed with no finish on
> it, but the wood is strong and not flaking or rotted. It is out
> in the open so well exposed to winter snow and summer sun. We
> need to decide if we should replace the sheeting before putting
> the siding on. We have had several opinions - keep it and
> replace it and now we don't know what to do. A builder said
> there is so much glue in the sheeting that if it is mold it
> would not have penetrated it. Not sure I believe that.
>
> I am allergic to mold. Because of this we are wondering what we
> should do? Some have said scrub with bleach, some have said
> replace. I also thought of power washing, but was told this
> would tear the pressboard apart. I thought of sandblasting with
> a home sand blaster I saw for removing paint, thinking this may
> be able to be adjusted. Just looking for opinions and ideas.
> Also thought of painting it to seal it. Is this a bad idea? Does
> it need to breathe?
>
> The cabin has half log pine siding waiting to be installed over
> the sheeting. We plan to use Tyvek under it. Although I just
> don't want to take a chance with mold, we would also like to
> avoid the labor and expense of tearing off all the exterior
> walls and replacing them. We are torn as to what to do. The
> interior will have insulation, drywall and probably some sort of
> wood paneling or planking for the walls. We want it well
> insulated against the winter weather and summer heat. The cabin
> is in an area where it is exposed to heavy snow and very cold
> temperatures in the winter, as well as sand and hot and
> sometimes humid in the summer.
>
> Any thoughts welcome...
>
> Thank you
>
> Autumn
>
>
>
>



Posted by Matt Whiting on February 3, 2007, 1:32 pm
Autumn wrote:
> We just purchased a cabin that is just framed in and the outer sheeting
> (pressboard plywood) is on. The roof is on and there are overhangs which has
> helped protect some of the wood. It has been exposed to the elements as is
> for 6 years. Some of it has turned a little black, as wood does exposed with
> no finish on it, but the wood is strong and not flaking or rotted. It is out
> in the open so well exposed to winter snow and summer sun. We need to decide
> if we should replace the sheeting before putting the siding on. We have had
> several opinions - keep it and replace it and now we don't know what to do.
> A builder said there is so much glue in the sheeting that if it is mold it
> would not have penetrated it. Not sure I believe that.
>
> I am allergic to mold. Because of this we are wondering what we should do?
> Some have said scrub with bleach, some have said replace. I also thought of
> power washing, but was told this would tear the pressboard apart. I thought
> of sandblasting with a home sand blaster I saw for removing paint, thinking
> this may be able to be adjusted. Just looking for opinions and ideas. Also
> thought of painting it to seal it. Is this a bad idea? Does it need to
> breathe?
>
> The cabin has half log pine siding waiting to be installed over the
> sheeting. We plan to use Tyvek under it. Although I just don't want to take
> a chance with mold, we would also like to avoid the labor and expense of
> tearing off all the exterior walls and replacing them. We are torn as to
> what to do. The interior will have insulation, drywall and probably some
> sort of wood paneling or planking for the walls. We want it well insulated
> against the winter weather and summer heat. The cabin is in an area where it
> is exposed to heavy snow and very cold temperatures in the winter, as well
> as sand and hot and sometimes humid in the summer.
>
> Any thoughts welcome...

I wouldn't be all that concerned with mold. I would be much more
concerned about the structural integrity of sheathing that has had 6
years of exposure to the elements. As long as it is truly sound
structurally, I would go ahead and apply the log siding. However, I
probably would spray the outside with some wood bleach just to clean
things up and spray it off with a hose. You can use a pressure washer
if no hose is available, but use a wide pattern and stay a couple of
feet away from the wood as you spray. You want to rinse off the bleach
and dirt, not blast off the wood itself.


Matt

Posted by on February 3, 2007, 5:09 pm
Autumn wrote:
> We just purchased a cabin that is just framed in and the outer sheeting
> (pressboard plywood) is on. The roof is on and there are overhangs which has
> helped protect some of the wood. It has been exposed to the elements as is
> for 6 years. Some of it has turned a little black, as wood does exposed with
> no finish on it, but the wood is strong and not flaking or rotted. It is out
> in the open so well exposed to winter snow and summer sun. We need to decide
> if we should replace the sheeting before putting the siding on. We have had
> several opinions - keep it and replace it and now we don't know what to do.
> A builder said there is so much glue in the sheeting that if it is mold it
> would not have penetrated it. Not sure I believe that.
>
> I am allergic to mold. Because of this we are wondering what we should do?
> Some have said scrub with bleach, some have said replace. I also thought of
> power washing, but was told this would tear the pressboard apart. I thought
> of sandblasting with a home sand blaster I saw for removing paint, thinking
> this may be able to be adjusted. Just looking for opinions and ideas. Also
> thought of painting it to seal it. Is this a bad idea? Does it need to
> breathe?
>
> The cabin has half log pine siding waiting to be installed over the
> sheeting. We plan to use Tyvek under it. Although I just don't want to take
> a chance with mold, we would also like to avoid the labor and expense of
> tearing off all the exterior walls and replacing them. We are torn as to
> what to do. The interior will have insulation, drywall and probably some
> sort of wood paneling or planking for the walls. We want it well insulated
> against the winter weather and summer heat. The cabin is in an area where it
> is exposed to heavy snow and very cold temperatures in the winter, as well
> as sand and hot and sometimes humid in the summer.
>
> Any thoughts welcome...
>
> Thank you
>
> Autumn
>
>
>
>
I clean mold/mildew/whatever else accumulates on my house trim every
spring with a product called JOMAX. It's about $18-$19/gallon at
Lowe's, ACE, H.D. 1 part JOMAX to 5 parts bleach & 20 parts water ..
.. spray it on with a pump-up garden sprayer, and watch it disappear !!
!! !! I'd be willing to bet the stuff on your siding would respond
favorably to this treatment, and it certainly can't hurt to kill off
anything parasitic before burying it in your walls. Very fast & easy
to mix up and apply .. why not give it a shot ?? ?? ??


<<<__ Bøb __>>>

Posted by Steve Barker on February 3, 2007, 6:34 pm
Sounds like the jomax is a ripoff to me. The 1:4 bleach and water will do
what you said.

--
Steve Barker


>>
>>
> I clean mold/mildew/whatever else accumulates on my house trim every
> spring with a product called JOMAX. It's about $18-$19/gallon at Lowe's,
> ACE, H.D. 1 part JOMAX to 5 parts bleach & 20 parts water .. .. spray it
> on with a pump-up garden sprayer, and watch it disappear !! !! !! I'd be
> willing to bet the stuff on your siding would respond favorably to this
> treatment, and it certainly can't hurt to kill off anything parasitic
> before burying it in your walls. Very fast & easy to mix up and apply ..
> why not give it a shot ?? ?? ??
>
>
> <<<__ Bøb __>>>



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