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Mounting 2 x 4 to block wall ? James 03-10-2008
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Posted by James on March 10, 2008, 6:00 pm
I want to mount a PT 2 x 4 to a cinder block wall in my basement, in
order to build some shelves.

What is the best way to do this ? These shelves may hold a max of 100 lbs.

I have seen those lead "sleeves" which I suppose you screw lag bolts into.
Is that the best method ?

Are there other products which are easier to use ?

I do have some mortor bits, so I am guessing that I can drill into this wall
ok. I don't think it is poured solid at this place in the wall.

Thanks for any tips.

James



Posted by RickH on March 10, 2008, 5:49 pm
> I want to mount a PT =A0 2 x 4 =A0to a cinder block wall in my basement, i=
n
> order to build some shelves.
>
> What is the best way to do this ? =A0 These shelves may hold a max of 100 =
lbs.
>
> I have seen those lead "sleeves" which I suppose you screw lag bolts into.=

> Is that the best method ?
>
> Are there other products which are easier to use ?
>
> I do have some mortor bits, so I am guessing that I can drill into this wa=
ll
> ok. =A0 I don't think it is poured solid at this place in the wall.
>
> Thanks for any tips.
>
> James

No lead anchors and lags are not the best for hollow masonry, those
are good for solid slabs. For hollow cinder block I would not use any
anchor that expands in its hole. I would rather use a butterfly (or
mushroom style) molly bolt so as not to crack a block with a hole
expanding anchor. Better to have an anchor that expands on the other
side of the hole like a mushroom or butterfly molly. Quarter inch
bolts should be fine for 100lbs on 16-24 inch centers.


Posted by John Grabowski on March 10, 2008, 6:32 pm

> I want to mount a PT 2 x 4 to a cinder block wall in my basement, in
> order to build some shelves.
>
> What is the best way to do this ? These shelves may hold a max of 100 lbs.
>
> I have seen those lead "sleeves" which I suppose you screw lag bolts into.
> Is that the best method ?
>
> Are there other products which are easier to use ?
>
> I do have some mortor bits, so I am guessing that I can drill into this
> wall
> ok. I don't think it is poured solid at this place in the wall.
>
> Thanks for any tips.
>
> James

No lead anchors and lags are not the best for hollow masonry, those
are good for solid slabs. For hollow cinder block I would not use any
anchor that expands in its hole. I would rather use a butterfly (or
mushroom style) molly bolt so as not to crack a block with a hole
expanding anchor. Better to have an anchor that expands on the other
side of the hole like a mushroom or butterfly molly. Quarter inch
bolts should be fine for 100lbs on 16-24 inch centers.


I agree with RickH. Toggle bolts would be best for hollow block. 1/4" or
larger should work fine. You just need to drill your holes in the hollow
areas. If it is real cinder block you can drill with a masonry bit and a
good drill. However if you have cement block you will need a hammer drill.


Posted by David L. Martel on March 10, 2008, 6:41 pm
James,

Take a look at toggle bolts when you next enter a hardware store.

Dave M.



Posted by Jim Elbrecht on March 10, 2008, 7:04 pm
wrote:

>I want to mount a PT 2 x 4 to a cinder block wall in my basement, in
>order to build some shelves.
>
>What is the best way to do this ? These shelves may hold a max of 100 lbs.

I'd plan on it holding 500 - but that's easy.
>
>I have seen those lead "sleeves" which I suppose you screw lag bolts into.
>Is that the best method ?
>
>Are there other products which are easier to use ?

I like Tapcons-
http://www.concretefasteners.com/anchors-fasteners/tapcon-screw/installation.aspx

Get the ones with a hex head. Pick up a 1/2 hammer drill for about
$50 and you'll love these things. Clean the hole out well with the
bit-- use a hex driver to seat them.
[the last few boxes of 25 (50?) that have I bought came with the right
size drill and a hex driver.]

Jim

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