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Mud shower pan Raider Bill 11-05-2009
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Posted by Raider Bill on November 5, 2009, 8:38 am


Does anyone have any experiance with this product?

http://www.markeindustries.com/pre-pitch.html

Posted by RicodJour on November 5, 2009, 9:59 am


> Does anyone have any experiance with this product?
> http://www.markeindustries.com/pre-pitch.html

No, but Schluter has an excellent system.
http://www.schluter.com/8_4_kerdi_shower_kit.aspx

They sell the individual components as well. The system takes care of
pitch, drainage, waterproofing and uncoupling. If you see someone
using their stuff, it's almost a given that they are not a hack. The
same can't be said for anything else in tiling.

R

Posted by HerHusband on November 5, 2009, 10:49 am


>> Does anyone have any experiance with this product?
>> http://www.markeindustries.com/pre-pitch.html
>
> No, but Schluter has an excellent system.
> http://www.schluter.com/8_4_kerdi_shower_kit.aspx
>
> They sell the individual components as well. The system takes care of
> pitch, drainage, waterproofing and uncoupling. If you see someone
> using their stuff, it's almost a given that they are not a hack. The
> same can't be said for anything else in tiling.

I second the Kerdi waterproofing and drain system, though I did not use the
preformed shower beds. I liked Kerdi because the waterproofing membrane
goes right under the tile instead of under a mud bed that can absorb water
and cause mildew problems. And, only one mud bed is needed (vinyl liners
usually require two, one under, one over).

From just a brief look, it looks like you could probably use the pre-pitch
screeds to form the mud bed, then use Kerdi to waterproof it all?

It has been a few years, but here's a link to my bathroom projects with
lots of photos of our progress. The main bathroom mud bed with Kerdi
starts around page 3 (watch the word wrap, this is all one line):

http://www.johnbridge.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=12876
&highlight=anthony%27s+house

Take care,

Anthony

Posted by Raider Bill on November 6, 2009, 8:52 am


> >> Does anyone have any experiance with this product?
> >>http://www.markeindustries.com/pre-pitch.html
> > No, but Schluter has an excellent system.
> >http://www.schluter.com/8_4_kerdi_shower_kit.aspx
> > They sell the individual components as well. =A0The system takes care o=
f
> > pitch, drainage, waterproofing and uncoupling. =A0If you see someone
> > using their stuff, it's almost a given that they are not a hack. =A0The
> > same can't be said for anything else in tiling.
> I second the Kerdi waterproofing and drain system, though I did not use t=
he
> preformed shower beds. =A0I liked Kerdi because the waterproofing membran=
e
> goes right under the tile instead of under a mud bed that can absorb wate=
r
> and cause mildew problems. =A0And, only one mud bed is needed (vinyl line=
rs
> usually require two, one under, one over).
> From just a brief look, it looks like you could probably use the pre-pitc=
h
> screeds to form the mud bed, then use Kerdi to waterproof it all?
> It has been a few years, but here's a link to my bathroom projects with
> lots of photos of our progress. =A0The main bathroom mud bed with Kerdi
> starts around page 3 (watch the word wrap, this is all one line):
> http://www.johnbridge.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=3D12876
> &highlight=3Danthony%27s+house
> Take care,
> Anthony

My shower is a weird size, nobody makes a pan that will fit it. 6'8" X
40"
I'm not sure of my ability to slope the mud right so am considering
this system.
The company is local here in Clearwater, fl but my build is in Tenn.




Posted by HerHusband on November 6, 2009, 10:35 am


> My shower is a weird size, nobody makes a pan that
> will fit it. 6'8" X 40" I'm not sure of my ability to
> slope the mud right so am considering this system.

Our 6'x6' shower was a non-standard size also, so premade pans were not an
option.

I started my mud bed by setting the kerdi drain in a bed of mud in the
center of the floor. This is the "low point" in the shower, so it's the
most critical place to start.

Then I determined how high the edges needed to be to maintain a 1/4" per
foot slope, and built up the mortar around the edge of the shower at the
proper height (checking it with a level). Our shower was square, but you'll
need to figure out the height based on the longest dimension (so the
shorter sides will have a bit steeper slope).

Then I simply filled in the area between the drain and the perimeter and
screeded off the extra with a board.

The mortar mix should be fairly dry so it "packs", not fluid like concrete.

If this is your first pan, I recommend visiting the John Bridge tiling
forum. There's a lot of great advice and examples there. I don't think I
could have pulled ours off as nicely without that forum.

Good luck!

Anthony

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