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Posted by on August 18, 2008, 8:26 pm
My experience in purchasing a modular home from New England Homes,
Inc., Greenland, NH is still ongoing. I would not recommend anyone to
purchase a modular from New England Homes ( NEH ). We purchased a
ranch (B) style and was delivered in May 2007 and its still not
completed or passed occupancy permit yet. Many, many fire code and
local code violations, many building items incorrectly installed.
There was vinal siding falling off in July 2007 due to minimum
nailing. Modular was not level or even fasten to the foundation sills
as required. The (90 psf quote) snow load roof was acturally built as
a 51.7 psf. Both ceiling's was noticable sagging about a month later
(June 2007), along with the roof raftes sagging. There was rows ( 72')
of roof shingles not even nailed which NEH failed to fasten.
NEH does paints a perfect picture during ( factory /open house tour's,
brochures and etc, sales people, e.g. Giff Hamill, Billie Hamill and
etc)for the consumer's, but what you recieve, is a different story and
can be a nightmare for you.
Beware in even thinking about purchasing a New England modular home,
you could get BURNED. They may not be built or even installed
correctly as previously represented to you.
You are welcome to take a tour of this New England Home and see for
yourself.
Yours Truly
firewoodguy.com
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Posted by PeterD on August 19, 2008, 11:21 am
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:26:38 -0700 (PDT), firewoodguy@comcast.net
wrote:
>My experience in purchasing a modular home from New England Homes,
>Inc., Greenland, NH is still ongoing. I would not recommend anyone to
>purchase a modular from New England Homes ( NEH ). We purchased a
>ranch (B) style and was delivered in May 2007 and its still not
>completed or passed occupancy permit yet. Many, many fire code and
>local code violations, many building items incorrectly installed.
>There was vinal siding
What is vinal siding? Is this a trade name?
>falling off in July 2007 due to minimum
>nailing.
Define 'minimum nailing'?
>Modular was not level or even fasten to the foundation sills
>as required. The (90 psf quote) snow load roof was acturally built as
>a 51.7 psf.
You need to understand how ground snow load and roof snow load are
different, and how each relates to the other. I think your building
inspector can help you there.
>Both ceiling's was noticable sagging about a month later
>(June 2007), along with the roof raftes sagging.
What is "both ceiling's"? What is a 'raftes'?
>There was rows ( 72')
>of roof shingles not even nailed which NEH failed to fasten.
>NEH does paints a perfect picture during ( factory /open house tour's,
>brochures and etc, sales people, e.g. Giff Hamill, Billie Hamill and
Posting peoples names, not matter how justified you feel, is
monumentally stupid.
>etc)for the consumer's, but what you recieve, is a different story and
>can be a nightmare for you.
>Beware in even thinking about purchasing a New England modular home,
>you could get BURNED. They may not be built or even installed
And NEH installed the home? Or did someone else?
>correctly as previously represented to you.
>You are welcome to take a tour of this New England Home and see for
>yourself.
OK, where is it?
>Yours Truly
>firewoodguy.com
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Posted by on August 21, 2008, 9:43 am
> On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:26:38 -0700 (PDT), firewood...@comcast.net
> wrote:
> >My experience in purchasing a modular home from New England Homes,
> >Inc., Greenland, NH is still ongoing. I would not recommend anyone to
> >purchase a modular from New England Homes ( NEH ). We purchased a
> >ranch (B) style and was delivered in May 2007 and its still not
> >completed or passed occupancy permit yet. Many, many fire code and
> >local code violations, many building items incorrectly installed.
> >There was vinal siding
> What is vinal siding?
***Reply; exterior siding that made of vinyl.
Is this a trade name ?
***Reply; No,
> >falling off in July 2007 due to minimum
> >nailing.
> Define 'minimum nailing'?
***Reply ; 2 fasteners per 12' section vs manufactures installation
instruction **
> >Modular was not level or even fasten to the foundation sills
> >as required. The (90 psf quote) snow load roof was acturally built as
> >a 51.7 psf.
> You need to understand how ground snow load and roof snow load are
> different, and how each relates to the other. I think your building
> inspector can help you there.
** Reply, The ground snow load of 90 psf was included in the orginal
quote, but was built with a 65 psf ground snow load which
represents 51.7 snow load. It was the Code official and the NH Fire
Marshal that discovered it.
> >Both ceiling's was noticable sagging about a month later
> >(June 2007), along with the roof raftes sagging.
> What is "both ceiling's"?
*** Reply; 13' x 15' clear span M/B room and 15' x 14' kitchen area.
What is a 'raftes'?
*** Reply; The what-cha-ma-call-it-things thats refered to as the top
chords of the roof truss system.
> >There was rows ( 72')
> >of roof shingles not even nailed which NEH failed to fasten.
> >NEH does paints a perfect picture during ( factory /open house tour's,
> >brochures and etc, sales people, e.g. Giff Hamill, Billie Hamill and
> Posting peoples names, not matter how justified you feel, is
> monumentally stupid.
*** Reply; I guess that I'm now labled as a monumentally stupid
person
> >etc)for the consumer's, but what you recieve, is a different story and
> >can be a nightmare for you.
> >Beware in even thinking about purchasing a New England modular home,
> >you could get BURNED. They may not be built or even installed
> And NEH installed the home?
**Reply; NEH built the modular, NEH (set-crew) delivered and set the
modular on the foundation and made it weather tight and the NEH
contractor that was assigned to us by New England Homes,Inc., tried to
finish assembling the modular, but failed to do so as per the guide
lines set forth my NEH site referance manual.
Or did someone else?
*** Reply; N/A
> >correctly as previously represented to you.
> >You are welcome to take a tour of this New England Home and see for
> >yourself.
> OK, where is it?
*** Reply; Derry, NH. (03038) about 50 miles East of NEH factory in
Greenland,NH.
> >Yours Truly
> >firewoodguy.com- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
PeterD, All these NEH modular defects are documented thought NH Fire
Safety Marshal's Office (modular div) and Derry Building Code
Department which I believe is public information for anyone to view.
My posting on this forum, only represents my experience that I have
with NEH. If you are still interested in purchasing a modular from
NEH, you are welcome to do so. But beware of what could happen to you
in purchasing a modular from NEH.
Yours Truly
John
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Posted by RicodJour on August 21, 2008, 10:20 am
On Aug 21, 9:43=A0am, firewood...@comcast.net wrote:
> > Posting peoples names, not matter how justified you feel, is
> > monumentally stupid.
> *** Reply; I guess that I'm now labled as a monumentally stupid
> person
Pretty much.
R
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Posted by PeterD on August 21, 2008, 3:37 pm
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:43:52 -0700 (PDT), firewoodguy@comcast.net
wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:26:38 -0700 (PDT), firewood...@comcast.net
>> wrote:
>> >My experience in purchasing a modular home from New England Homes,
>> >Inc., Greenland, NH is still ongoing. I would not recommend anyone to
>> >purchase a modular from New England Homes ( NEH ). We purchased a
>> >ranch (B) style and was delivered in May 2007 and its still not
>> >completed or passed occupancy permit yet. Many, many fire code and
>> >local code violations, many building items incorrectly installed.
>> >There was vinal siding
>> What is vinal siding?
>***Reply; exterior siding that made of vinyl.
>Is this a trade name ?
>***Reply; No,
>> >falling off in July 2007 due to minimum
>> >nailing.
>> Define 'minimum nailing'?
>***Reply ; 2 fasteners per 12' section vs manufactures installation
>instruction **
>> >Modular was not level or even fasten to the foundation sills
>> >as required. The (90 psf quote) snow load roof was acturally built as
>> >a 51.7 psf.
>> You need to understand how ground snow load and roof snow load are
>> different, and how each relates to the other. I think your building
>> inspector can help you there.
> ** Reply, The ground snow load of 90 psf was included in the orginal
>quote, but was built with a 65 psf ground snow load which
>represents 51.7 snow load. It was the Code official and the NH Fire
>Marshal that discovered it.
>> >Both ceiling's was noticable sagging about a month later
>> >(June 2007), along with the roof raftes sagging.
>> What is "both ceiling's"?
>*** Reply; 13' x 15' clear span M/B room and 15' x 14' kitchen area.
>What is a 'raftes'?
>*** Reply; The what-cha-ma-call-it-things thats refered to as the top
>chords of the roof truss system.
>> >There was rows ( 72')
>> >of roof shingles not even nailed which NEH failed to fasten.
>> >NEH does paints a perfect picture during ( factory /open house tour's,
>> >brochures and etc, sales people, e.g. Giff Hamill, Billie Hamill and
>> Posting peoples names, not matter how justified you feel, is
>> monumentally stupid.
>*** Reply; I guess that I'm now labled as a monumentally stupid
>person
>> >etc)for the consumer's, but what you recieve, is a different story and
>> >can be a nightmare for you.
>> >Beware in even thinking about purchasing a New England modular home,
>> >you could get BURNED. They may not be built or even installed
>> And NEH installed the home?
>**Reply; NEH built the modular, NEH (set-crew) delivered and set the
>modular on the foundation and made it weather tight and the NEH
>contractor that was assigned to us by New England Homes,Inc., tried to
>finish assembling the modular, but failed to do so as per the guide
>lines set forth my NEH site referance manual.
>Or did someone else?
>*** Reply; N/A
>> >correctly as previously represented to you.
>> >You are welcome to take a tour of this New England Home and see for
>> >yourself.
>> OK, where is it?
>*** Reply; Derry, NH. (03038) about 50 miles East of NEH factory in
>Greenland,NH.
>> >Yours Truly
>> >firewoodguy.com- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
>PeterD, All these NEH modular defects are documented thought NH Fire
>Safety Marshal's Office (modular div) and Derry Building Code
>Department which I believe is public information for anyone to view.
>My posting on this forum, only represents my experience that I have
>with NEH. If you are still interested in purchasing a modular from
>NEH, you are welcome to do so. But beware of what could happen to you
>in purchasing a modular from NEH.
>Yours Truly
>John
All I'm interested in is facts... We've heard your side of the story,
you make convincing points (and your replies to me clarified some
interesting points, too.)
At least here where I am (western NH) any building such as a modular
or steel building must come with stamped engineers drawings and
certifications. Didn't this building? If it did, and doesn't match the
documentation, then I really recommend a court of law, not this court
of public opinion. If the building does meet the engineer's
specifications, and the building inspector(s) say the specifications
are wrong, go after the engineer.
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>Inc., Greenland, NH is still ongoing. I would not recommend anyone to
>purchase a modular from New England Homes ( NEH ). We purchased a
>ranch (B) style and was delivered in May 2007 and its still not
>completed or passed occupancy permit yet. Many, many fire code and
>local code violations, many building items incorrectly installed.
>There was vinal siding