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Posted by PeterD on December 3, 2008, 3:32 pm
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 16:56:56 -0000, "Cwatters"
>> ...There is a catch
>> 22... the sellers do not want the county to come inspect because they say
>> the county never approves anything except new systems and if I'm not going
>> to buy, someone else will without a new system.
>So no truth in the rumour that the housing market is bad in the USA?
Basically doesn't affect the OP's problem... The market is not 'good'
but you can still sell a house if you price it reasonably. (It is a
buyer's market right now).
However, the seller's attitude of "someone else will buy without
checking" is silly, and just plain never going to happen. The seller,
if (big IF) he believes this is taking way too many feel-good
medications!
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Posted by Rick Samuel on December 3, 2008, 10:57 pm
>I have made an offer on a home and had inspections. It passes reasonably
> on everything and I want the home. However, although the septic inspector
> passed the system, my understanding is that it would not pass county
> inspection because it is an old system, put in in 1960, and uses
> orangeburg pipe. In reading about it online, the pipe is said to have an
> average life expectancy of 50 to 60 years. This home is 48 years old. The
> inspector says those averages are affected by tree root damage (there are
> no trees near the system) and heavy equipment traffic (it's in a pasture),
> so it should last my lifetime if not longer (I'm 53). There is a catch
> 22... the sellers do not want the county to come inspect because they say
> the county never approves anything except new systems and if I'm not going
> to buy, someone else will without a new system. Without the county
> inspection, I can't get a perk test to determine whether a NEW system will
> cost $6,500 or $20,000, so I can't adjust my offer to incorporate a
> possible new septic system.
> I have to make a decision soon because the "passing inspection" clause in
> my offer had to be determined within 15 days of the signing and that is
> approaching quickly because of delays in getting the septic guy to come
> out.
> Any ideas? Any way to check to be sure the pipe is holding up as well as
> the inspector thinks?
> Thanks.
If bad goes to worse, could you use a composting toilet?
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Posted by PeterD on December 4, 2008, 9:42 am
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:57:21 +0300, "Rick Samuel"
>>I have made an offer on a home and had inspections. It passes reasonably
>> on everything and I want the home. However, although the septic inspector
>> passed the system, my understanding is that it would not pass county
>> inspection because it is an old system, put in in 1960, and uses
>> orangeburg pipe. In reading about it online, the pipe is said to have an
>> average life expectancy of 50 to 60 years. This home is 48 years old. The
>> inspector says those averages are affected by tree root damage (there are
>> no trees near the system) and heavy equipment traffic (it's in a pasture),
>> so it should last my lifetime if not longer (I'm 53). There is a catch
>> 22... the sellers do not want the county to come inspect because they say
>> the county never approves anything except new systems and if I'm not going
>> to buy, someone else will without a new system. Without the county
>> inspection, I can't get a perk test to determine whether a NEW system will
>> cost $6,500 or $20,000, so I can't adjust my offer to incorporate a
>> possible new septic system.
>> I have to make a decision soon because the "passing inspection" clause in
>> my offer had to be determined within 15 days of the signing and that is
>> approaching quickly because of delays in getting the septic guy to come
>> out.
>> Any ideas? Any way to check to be sure the pipe is holding up as well as
>> the inspector thinks?
>> Thanks.
> If bad goes to worse, could you use a composting toilet?
yea, or a porta-potty!
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Posted by Dioclese on December 8, 2008, 9:32 am
>I have made an offer on a home and had inspections. It passes reasonably
> on everything and I want the home. However, although the septic inspector
> passed the system, my understanding is that it would not pass county
> inspection because it is an old system, put in in 1960, and uses
> orangeburg pipe. In reading about it online, the pipe is said to have an
> average life expectancy of 50 to 60 years. This home is 48 years old. The
> inspector says those averages are affected by tree root damage (there are
> no trees near the system) and heavy equipment traffic (it's in a pasture),
> so it should last my lifetime if not longer (I'm 53). There is a catch
> 22... the sellers do not want the county to come inspect because they say
> the county never approves anything except new systems and if I'm not going
> to buy, someone else will without a new system. Without the county
> inspection, I can't get a perk test to determine whether a NEW system will
> cost $6,500 or $20,000, so I can't adjust my offer to incorporate a
> possible new septic system.
> I have to make a decision soon because the "passing inspection" clause in
> my offer had to be determined within 15 days of the signing and that is
> approaching quickly because of delays in getting the septic guy to come
> out.
> Any ideas? Any way to check to be sure the pipe is holding up as well as
> the inspector thinks?
> Thanks.
Did you call the county inspector office to pose these questions, incognito
of course? Normally, used homes around here in this rural area are "as is"
including the septic system. The potential buyer is best armed with his/her
own hired inspectors. The county inspector for septic systems normally only
does new systems period, at least in this county.
Not sure about their policy regarding that piping, call them. They will do
a head flow check just prior to the leech field. At least that's what they
did here. The new above ground system here was 20K.
Maybe you read this article?
http://www.sewerhistory.org/articles/compon/orangeburg/orangeburg.htm --
Dave
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>> 22... the sellers do not want the county to come inspect because they say
>> the county never approves anything except new systems and if I'm not going
>> to buy, someone else will without a new system.