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Polebarn loft Jeff Dieterle 08-10-2007
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Posted by Jeff Dieterle on August 10, 2007, 7:26 am
Just finished having a 16' high 40'x40' addition built on to an existing
polebarn. I wanted to build a loft over 1/2 of the addition for storage.
Want to design for a 100lb/sqft liveload. My plan was to duplicate the
endwall poles placed on 8ft centers with doubled 2x12 plates to rest 20ft
engineered lumber joists on 16" spacing covered with 3/4 t&g plywood. Does
anybody know of a link to get the loading and span distance for engineered
lumber or better yet if my design will get me to my live loading target.



Posted by Bobk207 on August 10, 2007, 11:50 am
> Just finished having a 16' high 40'x40' addition built on to an existing
> polebarn. I wanted to build a loft over 1/2 of the addition for storage.
> Want to design for a 100lb/sqft liveload. My plan was to duplicate the
> endwall poles placed on 8ft centers with doubled 2x12 plates to rest 20ft
> engineered lumber joists on 16" spacing covered with 3/4 t&g plywood. Does
> anybody know of a link to get the loading and span distance for engineered
> lumber or better yet if my design will get me to my live loading target.

Jeff-

A couple comments....

First I think I understand your framing system.

By 2 x 12 "plates" do you mean "header"?

The 2x12 double headers would span between the poles & the 20 ft
joists would span between the headers?

If so.... a back fo the envelop calc tells me that the 2x12's are
undersized; you're asking them to carry about 1200 lbs per ft.

You CAN go 20 ft @ 100 psf with engineered timber but I'm guessing
you'll have to go with a 14" deep joist AND drop to 12" oc spacing.
The 3/4 T&G is of course fine.

But as everyone always says "you should have this engineered by a
local guy"

for span tables (actually these tables don't go to 100psf, need to be
be calc'd)
go to www.apawood.org & reigster (its free)

& download I joist publication

APA Performance Rated I-Joists
Includes information on Span Ratings, installation details, cantilever
designs, architectural specifications and engineering design
properties for APA Performance Rated I-Joists. Only available as a
downloadable pdf file. Revised April 2004. (Form Z725 - 22 pages)



cheers
Bob


Posted by Jeff Dieterle on August 10, 2007, 2:06 pm
Thanks for the reply Bob, yes headers instead of plates and you've correctly
figured out what I was trying to describe. Thanks for the link regarding
span tables. Any idea where I would find the rest of the reference material
to size & space properly everything I want to do. I wanted 100lb/sqft
because I plan to store several (15-20) jukeboxes in this loft and they
average 350lbs each.

>> Just finished having a 16' high 40'x40' addition built on to an existing
>> polebarn. I wanted to build a loft over 1/2 of the addition for storage.
>> Want to design for a 100lb/sqft liveload. My plan was to duplicate the
>> endwall poles placed on 8ft centers with doubled 2x12 plates to rest
>> 20ft
>> engineered lumber joists on 16" spacing covered with 3/4 t&g plywood.
>> Does
>> anybody know of a link to get the loading and span distance for
>> engineered
>> lumber or better yet if my design will get me to my live loading target.
>
> Jeff-
>
> A couple comments....
>
> First I think I understand your framing system.
>
> By 2 x 12 "plates" do you mean "header"?
>
> The 2x12 double headers would span between the poles & the 20 ft
> joists would span between the headers?
>
> If so.... a back fo the envelop calc tells me that the 2x12's are
> undersized; you're asking them to carry about 1200 lbs per ft.
>
> You CAN go 20 ft @ 100 psf with engineered timber but I'm guessing
> you'll have to go with a 14" deep joist AND drop to 12" oc spacing.
> The 3/4 T&G is of course fine.
>
> But as everyone always says "you should have this engineered by a
> local guy"
>
> for span tables (actually these tables don't go to 100psf, need to be
> be calc'd)
> go to www.apawood.org & reigster (its free)
>
> & download I joist publication
>
> APA Performance Rated I-Joists
> Includes information on Span Ratings, installation details, cantilever
> designs, architectural specifications and engineering design
> properties for APA Performance Rated I-Joists. Only available as a
> downloadable pdf file. Revised April 2004. (Form Z725 - 22 pages)
>
>
>
> cheers
> Bob
>



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