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Posted by Sasquatch on November 30, 2006, 10:56 am
We've got a serious problem with our new house. While visiting the job
site today, I noticed the first floor seemed to be sagging in one
corner of the master bedroom. I couldn't believe it. I told the
foreman, and he started checking it out. He went down in the basement
and I could hear him yelling to the other guys. They were down there
for about a half hour, and when I went down to see what was going on
they met me at the steps and told me they had to work on something, and
that they'd call me later. They never called, so I went back out and
confronted them in the basement. I couldn't believe what I found. It
was worse than when I left. Then entire floor had caved in. They were
blaming it on the architect, who was already out there, saying the
beams he specified were not adequate, and the architect was blaming it
on them, saying that it should have been assumed that they also needed
to use certain joists, blah, blah, blah... Bottom line is that the
entire mess is caving in, and the builder says he wants nothing to do
with it, and he's quitting the job. What do I do now?!? Somebody
please help!
- John
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Posted by DT on November 30, 2006, 12:01 pm
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>This just goes on and on, doesn't it, John? Got any pictures of the problem?
--
Dennis
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Posted by Barold on November 30, 2006, 1:41 pm
Sasquatch wrote:
> We've got a serious problem with our new house. While visiting the job
> site today, I noticed the first floor seemed to be sagging in one
> corner of the master bedroom. I couldn't believe it. I told the
> foreman, and he started checking it out. He went down in the basement
> and I could hear him yelling to the other guys. They were down there
> for about a half hour, and when I went down to see what was going on
> they met me at the steps and told me they had to work on something, and
> that they'd call me later. They never called, so I went back out and
> confronted them in the basement. I couldn't believe what I found. It
> was worse than when I left. Then entire floor had caved in. They were
> blaming it on the architect, who was already out there, saying the
> beams he specified were not adequate, and the architect was blaming it
> on them, saying that it should have been assumed that they also needed
> to use certain joists, blah, blah, blah... Bottom line is that the
> entire mess is caving in, and the builder says he wants nothing to do
> with it, and he's quitting the job. What do I do now?!? Somebody
> please help!
>
> - John
I hope you haven't paid him yet.
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Posted by dpb on November 30, 2006, 3:20 pm
Sasquatch wrote:
> We've got a serious problem with our new house. While visiting the job
> site today, I noticed the first floor seemed to be sagging in one
> corner of the master bedroom. I couldn't believe it. I told the
> foreman, and he started checking it out. He went down in the basement
> and I could hear him yelling to the other guys. They were down there
> for about a half hour, and when I went down to see what was going on
> they met me at the steps and told me they had to work on something, and
> that they'd call me later. They never called, so I went back out and
> confronted them in the basement. I couldn't believe what I found. It
> was worse than when I left. Then entire floor had caved in. They were
> blaming it on the architect, who was already out there, saying the
> beams he specified were not adequate, and the architect was blaming it
> on them, saying that it should have been assumed that they also needed
> to use certain joists, blah, blah, blah... Bottom line is that the
> entire mess is caving in, and the builder says he wants nothing to do
> with it, and he's quitting the job. What do I do now?!? Somebody
> please help!
>
Is this a custom design by this architect/firm, I assume? First, of
all, start w/ a calm discussion of the problem with them. If they're
licensed and certified, they have an obligation against poor/inadequate
design and/or incomplete construction drawings/details. Find out what
they propose to make it right first and when (if) that isn't
satisfactory, press on. If, otoh, the builder did follow the plans and
details to the letter, that's pretty much all you can expect of him and
the onus will fall back on the a/e. If, however, the a/e is right that
there wasn't something done that should have been (and not by relying
on non-documented design details not on the drawings/plans, then he's
got a problem. If, after some discussion they're both pointing to the
other, you may need an independent opinion from an architect/engineer.
Certainly should touch base w/ your legal counsel (you do have one of
those, don't you?) to ensure you do the right things legally.
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Posted by RicodJour on November 30, 2006, 5:42 pm
dpb wrote:
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> Is this a custom design by this architect/firm, I assume?
dpb, save your fingers. Squatch is a troll. Check out his posting
history and in particular this same thread in alt.architecture The guy
has unresolved issues.
R
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