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Question on floor decking Dennis 03-07-2007
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Posted by Bob Morrison on March 26, 2007, 6:11 pm
In a previous post Dennis wrote...
> Don't get me wrong, I'm not a proponent of non-wood products, I simply find
> it extremely interesting that a deck made from non-wood products like straw
> is even feasible. A product considered as waste.
> I find it interesting as to what the world is coming to.
>

Many of these products are structural resin with some sort of fiber filler
so that they can be installed with nails or screws. The trick is not what
is is being used for the fiber filler, but the proper distribution of the
fibers in the resin. The fibers must be the right shape and weight, or
they don't distribute through the mix and then press into sheets properly.

--
Bob Morrison, PE, SE
R L Morrison Engineering Co
Structural & Civil Engineering
Poulsbo WA
bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com

Posted by Dennis on March 29, 2007, 7:37 pm
I've seen a lot of those type products, but I wouldn't consider them as
non-wood as they need the wood fiber for strength. (Actually I've only read
about them, never seen them used anywhere.)

The OSSB seems differnt however. According the the manufacturer, they "split
the hollow plant stalks to maximize the surface area on the straw fibres.
The increased surface area allows the individual fibres to bond when mixed
with an isocyanate resin, which is then subjected to heat and pressure. This
process causes the individual fibres to inter-weave, creating a panel equal
in strength to wood based OSB products."

I haven't read what the nail holding values are, that would be a critical
factor; of course.

In the future, the little piggy's house made out of straw may very well be
the better one! <grin>
Dennis


> In a previous post Dennis wrote...
>> Don't get me wrong, I'm not a proponent of non-wood products, I simply
>> find
>> it extremely interesting that a deck made from non-wood products like
>> straw
>> is even feasible. A product considered as waste.
>> I find it interesting as to what the world is coming to.
>>
>
> Many of these products are structural resin with some sort of fiber filler
> so that they can be installed with nails or screws. The trick is not what
> is is being used for the fiber filler, but the proper distribution of the
> fibers in the resin. The fibers must be the right shape and weight, or
> they don't distribute through the mix and then press into sheets properly.
>
> --
> Bob Morrison, PE, SE
> R L Morrison Engineering Co
> Structural & Civil Engineering
> Poulsbo WA
> bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com



Posted by Wayne Whitney on March 30, 2007, 1:04 pm

> I haven't read what the nail holding values are, that would be a
> critical factor; of course.

The information on OSSB that Bob Morrison originally pointed to said
that the product is not to be used as a nail base for siding.

Cheers, Wayne


Posted by Dennis on March 30, 2007, 6:59 pm
The info published by the manufacturer states it's going to be the
equivalent to OSB. (Still in pilot plant.)
(And there's an ICC spec on it as a structural board.)

(BTW, I was the one one who pointed to the URL; Bob's not interested in this
stuff. He's a plywood, OSB man.)

>
>> I haven't read what the nail holding values are, that would be a
>> critical factor; of course.
>
> The information on OSSB that Bob Morrison originally pointed to said
> that the product is not to be used as a nail base for siding.
>
> Cheers, Wayne
>



Posted by Wayne Whitney on March 30, 2007, 11:14 pm

> The info published by the manufacturer states it's going to be the
> equivalent to OSB. (Still in pilot plant.) (And there's an ICC spec
> on it as a structural board.) (BTW, I was the one one who pointed
> to the URL; Bob's not interested in this stuff. He's a plywood, OSB
> man.)

Sorry, my mistake, I was confusing the "Fiberbrace" Structural Wall
Sheathing that Bob Morrison did reference (and which says it is not to
be used as a nail base for siding) with the OSSB that you referenced.

Cheers, Wayne

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