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Radiant Floor Heating Question (boiler vs water heater) Wilma Fingerdo 12-01-2008
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Posted by Wilma Fingerdo on December 1, 2008, 3:02 pm
In a hydronic floor heat system, what is the best way to heat the water
in the pex tubing?

The initial study of the building design recommends a 16800 BTU 85%
efficient boiler ($2000 US). I am hearing about possibly a more
efficient way using two 90% efficient 60 gal water heaters.

Can anyone make some suggestions to me? I live in Northern Colorado.

Project description:

42 x 80 Pole style building, single level (metal siding + metal roof),
12 ft side walls

FLOOR: 1 1/2" "Blue board" foam insulation on top of pea gravel - 5"
concrete slab w/ pex tubing on 12" centers - 3 zones (3750' of 1/2"
tubing in approx 250' runs

INSULATION: Walls- R-26 -- Ceiling- R-38

Thanks!

Posted by on December 1, 2008, 3:08 pm
> In a hydronic floor heat system, what is the best way to heat the water
> in the pex tubing?
> The initial study of the building design recommends a 16800 BTU 85%
> efficient boiler ($2000 US). =A0I am hearing about possibly a more
> efficient way using two 90% efficient 60 gal water heaters.
> Can anyone make some suggestions to me? =A0I live in Northern Colorado.
> Project description:
> 42 x 80 Pole style building, single level (metal siding + metal roof),
> 12 ft side walls
> FLOOR: =A01 1/2" "Blue board" foam insulation on top of pea gravel - 5"
> concrete slab w/ pex tubing on 12" centers - 3 zones (3750' of 1/2"
> tubing in approx 250' runs
> INSULATION: Walls- R-26 -- Ceiling- R-38
> Thanks!

It is possible to make hot water heaters work with radiant flooring
but in most cases the duty cycle is far greater than the hot water
heater was ever intended for. You can figure what that does to the
life expectancy.

Posted by Cwatters on December 1, 2008, 6:11 pm

>
> FLOOR: 1 1/2" "Blue board" foam insulation on top of pea gravel - 5"
> concrete slab w/ pex tubing on 12" centers - 3 zones (3750' of 1/2" tubing
> in approx 250' runs

Interesting floor construction.

In the UK for a non structural floor we would typically build he following
top down...

2.5" concrete with heating pipe in
3" foam insulation
Damp proof membrane (plastic sheet)
Sand "blind" (to stop plastic sheet being punctured)
6" Compacted stone chips (called hardcore in the UK)




Posted by jamesgangnc on December 1, 2008, 8:44 pm
>> FLOOR: 1 1/2" "Blue board" foam insulation on top of pea gravel - 5"
>> concrete slab w/ pex tubing on 12" centers - 3 zones (3750' of 1/2"
>> tubing in approx 250' runs
> Interesting floor construction.
> In the UK for a non structural floor we would typically build he following
> top down...
> 2.5" concrete with heating pipe in
> 3" foam insulation
> Damp proof membrane (plastic sheet)
> Sand "blind" (to stop plastic sheet being punctured)
> 6" Compacted stone chips (called hardcore in the UK)
In the us, slab floor construction is typically under the entire house so it
is structural.



Posted by Cwatters on December 2, 2008, 3:35 pm

>>> FLOOR: 1 1/2" "Blue board" foam insulation on top of pea gravel - 5"
>>> concrete slab w/ pex tubing on 12" centers - 3 zones (3750' of 1/2"
>>> tubing in approx 250' runs
>> Interesting floor construction.
>> In the UK for a non structural floor we would typically build he
>> following top down...
>> 2.5" concrete with heating pipe in
>> 3" foam insulation
>> Damp proof membrane (plastic sheet)
>> Sand "blind" (to stop plastic sheet being punctured)
>> 6" Compacted stone chips (called hardcore in the UK)
> In the us, slab floor construction is typically under the entire house so
> it is structural.

5" doesn't sound very thick for a house. Is that timber frame?. Over here a
garage or shed base is typically 4".



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