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Raising level of deck JohnnyC 07-20-2007
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Posted by JohnnyC on July 20, 2007, 3:51 pm
My deck has a ledger board lagged into the band joist of the house. I am
going to build another deck to put a 3 season porch on top of it. I would
like the level of the new deck to be the same level as the door, which is
about 10 inches from the top of the existing ledger.
.
In this scenario, is the level of the deck raised? Do you build a frame on
top of the existing deck frame? I think I need to have the deck lagged into
the house because of the 3-season porch, but not sure. How do you guys do
this??
.
Thanks for your time.
(x-posted on alt.home.repair)




Posted by Dave on July 21, 2007, 12:12 am
> My deck has a ledger board lagged into the band joist of the house. I am
> going to build another deck to put a 3 season porch on top of it. I would
> like the level of the new deck to be the same level as the door, which is
> about 10 inches from the top of the existing ledger.
> .
> In this scenario, is the level of the deck raised? Do you build a frame
> on
> top of the existing deck frame? I think I need to have the deck lagged
> into
> the house because of the 3-season porch, but not sure. How do you guys do
> this??
> .
> Thanks for your time.
> (x-posted on alt.home.repair)
>
>
>

How many seasons the porch is utilized is immaterial. A distraction.

The surface of the top of the porch decking should be just below the bottom
of the door frame access.

You can tongue out the bottom of the joists for the new porch to the unknown
sized ledger board, OR, you can rip out the ledger board, and put it at
proper height using the right sized lumber.

"Lagging" is a new term for me. It was used in the U.S. Navy in reference
to sealing the equivalent to joints in sheetrock. Can you provide education
to this civilian term in your reference?

Dave



Posted by marson on July 21, 2007, 7:03 am
>
>
>
>
> > My deck has a ledger board lagged into the band joist of the house. I am
> > going to build another deck to put a 3 season porch on top of it. I would
> > like the level of the new deck to be the same level as the door, which is
> > about 10 inches from the top of the existing ledger.
> > .
> > In this scenario, is the level of the deck raised? Do you build a frame
> > on
> > top of the existing deck frame? I think I need to have the deck lagged
> > into
> > the house because of the 3-season porch, but not sure. How do you guys do
> > this??
> > .
> > Thanks for your time.
> > (x-posted on alt.home.repair)
>
> How many seasons the porch is utilized is immaterial. A distraction.
>
> The surface of the top of the porch decking should be just below the bottom
> of the door frame access.
>
> You can tongue out the bottom of the joists for the new porch to the unknown
> sized ledger board, OR, you can rip out the ledger board, and put it at
> proper height using the right sized lumber.
>
> "Lagging" is a new term for me. It was used in the U.S. Navy in reference
> to sealing the equivalent to joints in sheetrock. Can you provide education
> to this civilian term in your reference?
>
> Dave

By "lagging", I think he means fastening the ledger with lag bolts.
To do it right, I would suggest pulling the old off and raising the
new as Dave says. Also, you need to consider whether the existing
deck footings can support the load of a roof.


Posted by JohnnyC on July 21, 2007, 10:05 am
Thank you for your responses.
.
Are you saying the ledger board does not have to be connected to the band
joist of the house?
.
I understand about the load of the roof. This will be taken care of by
adding concrete piers and more support beams.


>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > My deck has a ledger board lagged into the band joist of the house. I
>> > am
>> > going to build another deck to put a 3 season porch on top of it. I
>> > would
>> > like the level of the new deck to be the same level as the door, which
>> > is
>> > about 10 inches from the top of the existing ledger.
>> > .
>> > In this scenario, is the level of the deck raised? Do you build a
>> > frame
>> > on
>> > top of the existing deck frame? I think I need to have the deck lagged
>> > into
>> > the house because of the 3-season porch, but not sure. How do you guys
>> > do
>> > this??
>> > .
>> > Thanks for your time.
>> > (x-posted on alt.home.repair)
>>
>> How many seasons the porch is utilized is immaterial. A distraction.
>>
>> The surface of the top of the porch decking should be just below the
>> bottom
>> of the door frame access.
>>
>> You can tongue out the bottom of the joists for the new porch to the
>> unknown
>> sized ledger board, OR, you can rip out the ledger board, and put it at
>> proper height using the right sized lumber.
>>
>> "Lagging" is a new term for me. It was used in the U.S. Navy in
>> reference
>> to sealing the equivalent to joints in sheetrock. Can you provide
>> education
>> to this civilian term in your reference?
>>
>> Dave
>
> By "lagging", I think he means fastening the ledger with lag bolts.
> To do it right, I would suggest pulling the old off and raising the
> new as Dave says. Also, you need to consider whether the existing
> deck footings can support the load of a roof.
>



Posted by marson on July 21, 2007, 2:07 pm
> Thank you for your responses.
> .
> Are you saying the ledger board does not have to be connected to the band
> joist of the house?
> .
> I understand about the load of the roof. This will be taken care of by
> adding concrete piers and more support beams.
>
>
>
>
>
> >> > My deck has a ledger board lagged into the band joist of the house. I
> >> > am
> >> > going to build another deck to put a 3 season porch on top of it. I
> >> > would
> >> > like the level of the new deck to be the same level as the door, which
> >> > is
> >> > about 10 inches from the top of the existing ledger.
> >> > .
> >> > In this scenario, is the level of the deck raised? Do you build a
> >> > frame
> >> > on
> >> > top of the existing deck frame? I think I need to have the deck lagged
> >> > into
> >> > the house because of the 3-season porch, but not sure. How do you guys
> >> > do
> >> > this??
> >> > .
> >> > Thanks for your time.
> >> > (x-posted on alt.home.repair)
>
> >> How many seasons the porch is utilized is immaterial. A distraction.
>
> >> The surface of the top of the porch decking should be just below the
> >> bottom
> >> of the door frame access.
>
> >> You can tongue out the bottom of the joists for the new porch to the
> >> unknown
> >> sized ledger board, OR, you can rip out the ledger board, and put it at
> >> proper height using the right sized lumber.
>
> >> "Lagging" is a new term for me. It was used in the U.S. Navy in
> >> reference
> >> to sealing the equivalent to joints in sheetrock. Can you provide
> >> education
> >> to this civilian term in your reference?
>
> >> Dave
>
> > By "lagging", I think he means fastening the ledger with lag bolts.
> > To do it right, I would suggest pulling the old off and raising the
> > new as Dave says. Also, you need to consider whether the existing
> > deck footings can support the load of a roof.

Well, it sure won't hurt anything to lag the new ledger (by the way,
there are better options to the old fashioned hex head lags--Home
Depot sells a lag that drives with a power drill, and there are also
ledgerlocks, for example). However, if the deck below is fastened to
the house, and the deck above is fastened to the deck below, you
should be OK. By the way, are you pulling a permit for this? If so,
your city building department will have something to say.


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