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Re: Architecture? Chuck 07-03-2007
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Posted by Chuck on July 3, 2007, 3:19 am

>>
>> Who's the editor of the alt.architecture group? It seems that people
>> talk more about subjects having little to do with architecture. What
>> kind of architecture is the group supposed to discuss? The design-
>> oriented kind, or what?
>> Here are some of the less than entralling subjects:
>>
>> I buyed me sum tomato-basil hummus.
>> Folk songs of the far right wing
>> Hummus is simpler than even making donuts
>> Genuine Money Earn Every day Internet jobs for all. Earn Unlimited
>> income.
>>
>> What?
>>
>> To steer the discussion in some more meaningful way for architects,
>> here's my contribution:
>>
>> What is the difference between folk and vernacular architecture? Are
>> McMansions our culture's new vernacular? Is everyone familiar with
>> the term "McMansion?"
>>
>> How has the "one world, one culture" reality affected the traditions
>> of local communities?
>
> There is no "editor" for a newsgroup. I am the moderator. I must
> insist that you cease such attacks against the posters to this
> newsgroup. It is ynwarranted. Hummus is a vernacular food and
> addresses different cultures and their cooking traditions and thereby
> kitchen and restaurant design, folk songs often highlight a buildings
> acoustic properties, and income...well, I don't know what that one's
> about. Must have slipped by me.
>
> Please refrain from disruptive posting or your posts will be deleted.
>
> Thank you
>
> Moderatus Unanimous
>

The fellow is correct. About 10 % posts are actually architecture. What I
do is just scan some of the posts a little and if they are not architectural
I close them out. Once in a while you might get a really good thread. He
didn't do attacks (plural) he did it once. I have read this newsgroup for
many years and seems to never change. Do a survey, ask how many posters are
registered architects.

Sorry Mr. Moderator.



Posted by RicodJour on July 3, 2007, 10:04 am
>
> >> Who's the editor of the alt.architecture group? It seems that people
> >> talk more about subjects having little to do with architecture. What
> >> kind of architecture is the group supposed to discuss? The design-
> >> oriented kind, or what?
> >> Here are some of the less than entralling subjects:
>
> >> I buyed me sum tomato-basil hummus.
> >> Folk songs of the far right wing
> >> Hummus is simpler than even making donuts
> >> Genuine Money Earn Every day Internet jobs for all. Earn Unlimited
> >> income.
>
> >> What?
>
> >> To steer the discussion in some more meaningful way for architects,
> >> here's my contribution:
>
> >> What is the difference between folk and vernacular architecture? Are
> >> McMansions our culture's new vernacular? Is everyone familiar with
> >> the term "McMansion?"
>
> >> How has the "one world, one culture" reality affected the traditions
> >> of local communities?
>
> > There is no "editor" for a newsgroup. I am the moderator. I must
> > insist that you cease such attacks against the posters to this
> > newsgroup. It is unwarranted. Hummus is a vernacular food and
> > addresses different cultures and their cooking traditions and thereby
> > kitchen and restaurant design, folk songs often highlight a buildings
> > acoustic properties, and income...well, I don't know what that one's
> > about. Must have slipped by me.
>
> > Please refrain from disruptive posting or your posts will be deleted.
>
> > Thank you
>
> > Moderatus Unanimous
>
> The fellow is correct. About 10 % posts are actually architecture. What I
> do is just scan some of the posts a little and if they are not architectural
> I close them out.

Except this one?

> Once in a while you might get a really good thread.

In your opinion?

> He didn't do attacks (plural) he did it once.

He mentioned four different threads - three by regulars.

> I have read this newsgroup for many years and seems to never change.

And...?

> Do a survey, ask how many posters are registered architects.

And...?

> Sorry Mr. Moderator.

I prefer the title of Moderatus Unanimous, thank you very much.

How a particular newsgroup operates, and what the regulars choose to
discuss is pretty much up to them, isn't it? Your crossposting of an
existing thread to other newsgroups that have nothing to do with the
original group/post is troubling. You mentioned that if the post was
not architectural you closed it out. What prompted you to crosspost
this particular one? Are you looking to publicize something, maybe
garner support and "straighten" out a newsgroup you barely show up
on? Usenet is either a sandbox, soapbox, or free-for-all, depending
on how you look at it. If you want control, feel free to start your
own web site or blog.

I don't mean to be overly harsh, but I don't understand what it is
that you think you're trying to accomplish. I do know that - whatever
it is - you're unlikely to achieve a favorable outcome if your proceed
in this manner.

R


Posted by Chuck on July 4, 2007, 4:07 am

>>
>> >> Who's the editor of the alt.architecture group? It seems that people
>> >> talk more about subjects having little to do with architecture. What
>> >> kind of architecture is the group supposed to discuss? The design-
>> >> oriented kind, or what?
>> >> Here are some of the less than entralling subjects:
>>
>> >> I buyed me sum tomato-basil hummus.
>> >> Folk songs of the far right wing
>> >> Hummus is simpler than even making donuts
>> >> Genuine Money Earn Every day Internet jobs for all. Earn Unlimited
>> >> income.
>>
>> >> What?
>>
>> >> To steer the discussion in some more meaningful way for architects,
>> >> here's my contribution:
>>
>> >> What is the difference between folk and vernacular architecture? Are
>> >> McMansions our culture's new vernacular? Is everyone familiar with
>> >> the term "McMansion?"
>>
>> >> How has the "one world, one culture" reality affected the traditions
>> >> of local communities?
>>
>> > There is no "editor" for a newsgroup. I am the moderator. I must
>> > insist that you cease such attacks against the posters to this
>> > newsgroup. It is unwarranted. Hummus is a vernacular food and
>> > addresses different cultures and their cooking traditions and thereby
>> > kitchen and restaurant design, folk songs often highlight a buildings
>> > acoustic properties, and income...well, I don't know what that one's
>> > about. Must have slipped by me.
>>
>> > Please refrain from disruptive posting or your posts will be deleted.
>>
>> > Thank you
>>
>> > Moderatus Unanimous
>>
>> The fellow is correct. About 10 % posts are actually architecture. What
>> I
>> do is just scan some of the posts a little and if they are not
>> architectural
>> I close them out.
>
> Except this one?
>
>> Once in a while you might get a really good thread.
>
> In your opinion?
>
>> He didn't do attacks (plural) he did it once.
>
> He mentioned four different threads - three by regulars.
>
>> I have read this newsgroup for many years and seems to never change.
>
> And...?
>
>> Do a survey, ask how many posters are registered architects.
>
> And...?
>
>> Sorry Mr. Moderator.
>
> I prefer the title of Moderatus Unanimous, thank you very much.
>
> How a particular newsgroup operates, and what the regulars choose to
> discuss is pretty much up to them, isn't it? Your crossposting of an
> existing thread to other newsgroups that have nothing to do with the
> original group/post is troubling. You mentioned that if the post was
> not architectural you closed it out. What prompted you to crosspost
> this particular one? Are you looking to publicize something, maybe
> garner support and "straighten" out a newsgroup you barely show up
> on? Usenet is either a sandbox, soapbox, or free-for-all, depending
> on how you look at it. If you want control, feel free to start your
> own web site or blog.
>
> I don't mean to be overly harsh, but I don't understand what it is
> that you think you're trying to accomplish. I do know that - whatever
> it is - you're unlikely to achieve a favorable outcome if your proceed
> in this manner.
>

You probably know this but there are many newsgroups that actually discuss
and post items according to their name and intent. There is no other
newsgroup that claims to discuss architecture, that is really sad.
Discussing objects that pertain to a profession or projects they might be
working on, or, questions on why things happen within your profession seems
helpful to me.

CID...



Posted by Don on July 4, 2007, 7:44 am
"Chuck"> wrote
> You probably know this but there are many newsgroups that actually discuss
> and post items according to their name and intent. There is no other
> newsgroup that claims to discuss architecture, that is really sad.
> Discussing objects that pertain to a profession or projects they might be
> working on, or, questions on why things happen within your profession
> seems helpful to me.

Ya know, people are always complaining about the lack of proper subject in
this group but hardly any of the complainers ever offer any *on topic*
posts.
Why do you suppose that is?
Here's my take, having observed this group for more than 10 years now:
This group would be completely dead if not for the current regulars here
that post any and everything.
Occaisionally someone will post something on topic but the topic rarely
receives much attention.

Imagine, if a moderator suddenly appeard with full SYSOP control and banned
all off topic posts.
There would be NOTHING here.
Save for the occaisional noob that stumbles in asking for help on her/his
homework, or the rood flathead intent on bashing singapore architex.
Would you still visit this group?

This group has evolved into what it is and you can contribute in whatever
way you like, even if it is just to complain.
If you don't like the content you can put in the effort to make it more to
your liking.
Thats the cool part about complete, unregulated freedom, everybody gets to
do what they want.

That, apparently isn't good enough for some bored people though.
They want someone else, someone with some power, to force other people to do
things their way.
When that happens normal people get away from it because normal people
require freedom to do what they want.

Check out some of the moderated groups, blogs, sites, lists, etc. and you
will see very little content.
Why?
Because people don't like it when one person gets to tell everybody else to
stick it.

My suggestion is to make this group what you think it should be and use the
only tool to your avail:
Initiate posts that you believe to be right and allow others to contribute
as they see fit.
If you put in enough effort toward your goal you will see success.
Or.
Do nothing and expect things to just magically go your way.......



Posted by RicodJour on July 4, 2007, 8:54 am
> "Chuck"> wrote
>
> > You probably know this but there are many newsgroups that actually discuss
> > and post items according to their name and intent. There is no other
> > newsgroup that claims to discuss architecture, that is really sad.
> > Discussing objects that pertain to a profession or projects they might be
> > working on, or, questions on why things happen within your profession
> > seems helpful to me.
>
> Ya know, people are always complaining about the lack of proper subject in
> this group but hardly any of the complainers ever offer any *on topic*
> posts.
> Why do you suppose that is?
> Here's my take, having observed this group for more than 10 years now:
> This group would be completely dead if not for the current regulars here
> that post any and everything.
> Occaisionally someone will post something on topic but the topic rarely
> receives much attention.
>
> Imagine, if a moderator suddenly appeard with full SYSOP control and banned
> all off topic posts.
> There would be NOTHING here.
> Save for the occaisional noob that stumbles in asking for help on her/his
> homework, or the rood flathead intent on bashing singapore architex.
> Would you still visit this group?
>
> This group has evolved into what it is and you can contribute in whatever
> way you like, even if it is just to complain.
> If you don't like the content you can put in the effort to make it more to
> your liking.
> Thats the cool part about complete, unregulated freedom, everybody gets to
> do what they want.
>
> That, apparently isn't good enough for some bored people though.
> They want someone else, someone with some power, to force other people to do
> things their way.
> When that happens normal people get away from it because normal people
> require freedom to do what they want.
>
> Check out some of the moderated groups, blogs, sites, lists, etc. and you
> will see very little content.
> Why?
> Because people don't like it when one person gets to tell everybody else to
> stick it.
>
> My suggestion is to make this group what you think it should be and use the
> only tool to your avail:
> Initiate posts that you believe to be right and allow others to contribute
> as they see fit.
> If you put in enough effort toward your goal you will see success.
> Or.
> Do nothing and expect things to just magically go your way.......

{This post has passed peerless review and is fit for consumption with
a little bit of hummus on the side}
- Moderatus Unanimous


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