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Re: Where does the term "California Roof" come from (historically)? ChitaShines 11-07-2006
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Posted by RicodJour on November 7, 2006, 5:32 pm
Mike Lyle wrote:
> RicodJour wrote:
> [...]
> > If you are simply researching colloquialisms, and not actual
> > construction information, one of the word origin or semantics
> > newsgroups might be a better place to conduct your research.
>
> Well, she posted to AUE: she may not have got the answer, but I can't
> think of a better place to ask.

Indeed, there is that. I didn't notice the on point cross posting. I
fear the OP is on a bit of a chase, but I've been on a few that were
fun in unexpected ways - even if they didn't produce results. Do you
know of any other linguistics newsgroups the OP might try?

R


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Posted by Mike Lyle on November 7, 2006, 5:58 pm

RicodJour wrote:
> Mike Lyle wrote:
> > RicodJour wrote:
> > [...]
> > > If you are simply researching colloquialisms, and not actual
> > > construction information, one of the word origin or semantics
> > > newsgroups might be a better place to conduct your research.
> >
> > Well, she posted to AUE: she may not have got the answer, but I can't
> > think of a better place to ask.
>
> Indeed, there is that. I didn't notice the on point cross posting. I
> fear the OP is on a bit of a chase, but I've been on a few that were
> fun in unexpected ways - even if they didn't produce results. Do you
> know of any other linguistics newsgroups the OP might try?

I really don't know of any other with the generalist approach of AUE --
which also happens to number many engineers and a couple of people
connected with the property business among its regulars, so it would
usually be particularly promising for this kind of thing. I've just had
a look in Michael Quinion's World Wide Words, as well as the vast
online Oxford English Dictionary, but the expression isn't there.

--
Mike.


Posted by Peter Moylan on November 7, 2006, 10:03 pm
ChitaShines wrote:

> Are there any California builders on this google group?

A minor but important correction: alt.usage.english is not a google
group, it is a Usenet newsgroup; and I suspect that the same is true for
the two other newsgroups to which this was posted. (Otherwise my own
news server would be telling me "there is no such newsgroup".) Google
Groups are supplied by Google alone, and are not a part of Usenet.

This might seem like a minor quibble, but in fact many people remain
upset over Google's failure to distinguish between its own discussion
groups and the public Usenet groups to which it provides a primitive
interface. It could easily give the impression that Google owns Usenet.
In fact Usenet, which existed long before Google did, is not owned by
any private corporation. (Indeed, you seem to have that impression
despite the fact that you are apparently posting to a standard news
server rather than via Google. This is not a criticism of you, but it is
an illustration of how people are already being misled.)

In the view of at least some of us, referring to a newsgroup as a
"Google group" perpetuates a fraud which ought to be exposed at every
opportunity. It is just as annoying, and potentially as damaging, as
Microsoft's pretence that it is the only supplier of operating systems
for the IBM-PC.

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org

Please note the changed e-mail and web addresses. The domain
eepjm.newcastle.edu.au no longer exists, and I can no longer
receive mail at my newcastle.edu.au addresses. The optusnet
address could disappear at any time.

Posted by ChitaShines on November 7, 2006, 11:14 pm
On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 14:03:46 +1100, Peter Moylan wrote:
> In the view of at least some of us, referring to a newsgroup as a
> "Google group" perpetuates a fraud which ought to be exposed at every
> opportunity.

Hi there Peter Moylan,
I do thank you for correcting that error on my part. I, as you, would love
to always speak properly. I did not know the difference between a "google"
group and a usenet group.

I looked up on google the difference and it seems that there was the usenet
before there was the web and a dejaview company was taken over by google
and now the usenet is archived only on dejaview and will cost us money in
the future (according to some) because google is gaining content at our
expense, so to speak. I learned a lot just looking up that easy-to-find
history but the California Roof lookup failed me so far.

That's partly my quest here. I hear everyone bandy about the fact that I
have a California Roof (is it "the fact I" or "the fact that I"?) but my
roof really doesn't seem to look (to me) any different than all the roofs
around me. I just don't get it.

Everyone around here intrinsically seems to feel they know what a
California Roof is - but nobody I asked seems to be able to explain it to
me. Even the government publications don't seem to list what it is. Those
web sites that do list what they think it is, conflict with some other web
site. Is there a canonical web site for roof definitions?

I'd really like to know why my roof is called a California Roof versus
being called a low-pitch roof or a split-gable roof or a varied-taper roof
which is not put on straight (shouldn't it be straightly?).

As to the groups to post to, (I presume I am the OP based on a lookup of
that term (is it "look up" or "lookup"?) I was very unsure of whom to post
to because my newsreader only allows three groups at a time so that's why
there is a post to the builders separately from the homeowners.

What USENET group SHOULD I post a roofing question to?
(sorry to end in a preposition but I feel that rule is just plain silly.)

Posted by RicodJour on November 7, 2006, 11:24 pm
ChitaShines wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Nov:03:46 +1100, Peter Moylan wrote:
> > In the view of at least some of us, referring to a newsgroup as a
> > "Google group" perpetuates a fraud which ought to be exposed at every
> > opportunity.
>
> Hi there Peter Moylan,
> I do thank you for correcting that error on my part. I, as you, would love
> to always speak properly. I did not know the difference between a "google"
> group and a usenet group.
>
> I looked up on google the difference and it seems that there was the usenet
> before there was the web and a dejaview company was taken over by google
> and now the usenet is archived only on dejaview and will cost us money in
> the future (according to some) because google is gaining content at our
> expense, so to speak. I learned a lot just looking up that easy-to-find
> history but the California Roof lookup failed me so far.
>
> That's partly my quest here. I hear everyone bandy about the fact that I
> have a California Roof (is it "the fact I" or "the fact that I"?) but my
> roof really doesn't seem to look (to me) any different than all the roofs
> around me. I just don't get it.
>
> Everyone around here intrinsically seems to feel they know what a
> California Roof is - but nobody I asked seems to be able to explain it to
> me. Even the government publications don't seem to list what it is. Those
> web sites that do list what they think it is, conflict with some other web
> site. Is there a canonical web site for roof definitions?
>
> I'd really like to know why my roof is called a California Roof versus
> being called a low-pitch roof or a split-gable roof or a varied-taper roof
> which is not put on straight (shouldn't it be straightly?).
>
> As to the groups to post to, (I presume I am the OP based on a lookup of
> that term (is it "look up" or "lookup"?) I was very unsure of whom to post
> to because my newsreader only allows three groups at a time so that's why
> there is a post to the builders separately from the homeowners.
>
> What USENET group SHOULD I post a roofing question to?
> (sorry to end in a preposition but I feel that rule is just plain silly.)

Upload a picture of your roof to one of those free hosting sites, post
a link here, and let us - primarily the people on the construction
newsgroups - take a look. We will be able to tell you exactly what
sort of roof you have. If you decide to reject the correct
terminology/classification in favor of a more colorful vernacular,
well, that's up to you and entirely understandable.

R


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