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Removing framing around stairs James Kimble 02-19-2007
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Posted by James Kimble on February 19, 2007, 8:43 pm

I've got a very typical set of stairs that descend to the basement of
my ranch style home. I'm in the process of redecorating my basement
and I would like to open up one side of the stairs so that you can
look out into the room on one side as you go down the stairs. Right
now there is a framed wall on either side of the stairs that is a
simple frame of two by fours with dry wall on both sides. It doesn't
appear that the frames for these walls provide much support for the
stairs but they are nailed (lightly) to them.

Can any carpenters out there tell me how much support stairs usually
need on the sides? I was looking at some stair construction sites and
they usually don't even show side supports so I'm thinking they may
just add to stability but aren't particularly necessary for structural
support.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


Posted by marson on February 19, 2007, 10:16 pm
> I've got a very typical set of stairs that descend to the basement of
> my ranch style home. I'm in the process of redecorating my basement
> and I would like to open up one side of the stairs so that you can
> look out into the room on one side as you go down the stairs. Right
> now there is a framed wall on either side of the stairs that is a
> simple frame of two by fours with dry wall on both sides. It doesn't
> appear that the frames for these walls provide much support for the
> stairs but they are nailed (lightly) to them.
>
> Can any carpenters out there tell me how much support stairs usually
> need on the sides? I was looking at some stair construction sites and
> they usually don't even show side supports so I'm thinking they may
> just add to stability but aren't particularly necessary for structural
> support.
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

it depends on the length of the stringers, but for a basic one story
single run, yes you do need support under 2x12 stringers, or else you
need to beef up the framing. Without it, your stairs will have too
much bounce (at best). this shouldn't be a huge problem though--you
could cut the existing wall off at an angle following the stairs,
leaving the part that supports the stringers, or you could even tear
the whole wall out and rebuild a wall under the outer stringer.


Posted by Michael Bulatovich on February 20, 2007, 11:37 am

>
> I've got a very typical set of stairs that descend to the basement of
> my ranch style home. I'm in the process of redecorating my basement
> and I would like to open up one side of the stairs so that you can
> look out into the room on one side as you go down the stairs. Right
> now there is a framed wall on either side of the stairs that is a
> simple frame of two by fours with dry wall on both sides. It doesn't
> appear that the frames for these walls provide much support for the
> stairs but they are nailed (lightly) to them.
>
> Can any carpenters out there tell me how much support stairs usually
> need on the sides? I was looking at some stair construction sites and
> they usually don't even show side supports so I'm thinking they may
> just add to stability but aren't particularly necessary for structural
> support.

I'd be more worried about getting an informed opinion on the wall you plan
to remove. It's not implausible that it's a bearing partition. Someone who
knows wood framing should look at it BEFORE you take it out.

--


MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca



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