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Sample consumer-friendly contract consumer@yahoo.com 09-27-2006
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Posted by on September 29, 2006, 3:37 pm

>
>> ... Among other things, I got caught in the
>> vagaries of the payout schedule. It seemed clear when we signed the
>> contract, we'd pay a certain amount as each piece of work was "completed."
>> Since we never defined what "completed" was, the builder got to decide.
>...
>
>That's perhaps an example of an incomplete or ambiguous contract, or it
>could have been written specifically that way on purpose and got
>through. Was it clear from contract language the builder was the sole
>arbiter of "completed", or did he just assert it?

From your two years of business law, you will recall that clarity
(capable of interpretation) is one of the conditions required for
there to be a contract, and no doubt you will also recall that where
there is ambiguity, the contract is interpreted *against* the
interests of the author.

>
>And, yes, writing complete (and fair) contracts _is_ difficult which is
>why there are lawyers, amongst other reasons. And, of course, there is
>still the fact that fundamentally, even good contracts are only as good
>as the signatories' willingness to live up to them.

This is very true. Which is why my contracts are short and simple.
Two pages, max. Plain english.

If the client wants to wriggle out, I'm happy to lose him. If he
acts badly, I'll dump him. Contract or no.

Ken

Real Goods Solar, Inc.
Posted by dpb on September 30, 2006, 10:34 am

bambam@nospam.tnx wrote:
>
...

> >That's perhaps an example of an incomplete or ambiguous contract, or it
> >could have been written specifically that way on purpose and got
> >through. Was it clear from contract language the builder was the sole
> >arbiter of "completed", or did he just assert it?
>
> From your two years of business law, you will recall that clarity
> (capable of interpretation) is one of the conditions required for
> there to be a contract, and no doubt you will also recall that where
> there is ambiguity, the contract is interpreted *against* the
> interests of the author.
...

While I didn't take more than a couple courses and had some additional
seminars on business law, not even close to two years', I do recall
that :) And while true, for that to occur would almost certainly
require a formal adjudication process in practice. The question
(nearly rhetorical, but of at least passing interest in the particular
instance) was whether it was unambiguous as to who determined
"substantially complete" for progress payments and in case of
disagreement were there defined rules or did the contract simply not
say and so it defaulted to the (apparent) pissing contest? (Or, of
course, it could be that neither party actually followed the terms of
the contract itself which might have had all these things spelled
out--not likely w/ the given information, but no way to know for
absolute sure.)

But, in all matters substantial, it would appear we're in essentially
complete agreement.


Posted by on September 30, 2006, 6:19 pm

>
>bambam@nospam.tnx wrote:
>>
>...

>But, in all matters substantial, it would appear we're in essentially
>complete agreement.

<grin> Is that like substancially complete agreement?

Yeah, we share the key sentiments on the issue of fair minded
contracts. .

Ken


Posted by mrsgator88 on October 1, 2006, 1:09 am
> ...
> The question...was whether it was unambiguous as to who determined
> "substantially complete" for progress payments

The contract didn't state who decided when a phase was complete.

> and in case of
> disagreement were there defined rules or did the contract simply not
> say and so it defaulted to the (apparent) pissing contest?

No defined rules. Pissing contest insued. Contractor said pay me or you're
in default and the work stops.

S



Posted by dpb on October 1, 2006, 11:13 am

mrsgator88 wrote:
> > ...
> > The question...was whether it was unambiguous as to who determined
> > "substantially complete" for progress payments
>
> The contract didn't state who decided when a phase was complete.
>
> > and in case of
> > disagreement were there defined rules or did the contract simply not
> > say and so it defaulted to the (apparent) pissing contest?
>
> No defined rules. Pissing contest insued. Contractor said pay me or you're
> in default and the work stops.

Since we sorta' went on without you :) , I'll just respond in one
thread...

The comment regarding who arbitrates wasn't meant as an arbitrater-only
option necessarily, but simply referred to any definition of a dispute
resolution process. As you note, without one, essentially any
disagreement may descend to the lowest common denominator and the
knowledge that resorting to a legal battle isn't helpful to either
party.

It's also very common (almost universal?) for folks to not think they
will ever be in an advesarial postion with their builder, but it will
be almost as uncommon to _not_ be some conflict before a major project
is over.

The example simply illustrates very clearly the old saw of "the devil
is in the details" and the importance of serious review of a contract
by impartial and experienced eyes.

In this case, the simple expedient of requiring work to have passed
appropriate inspections, etc., before acceptance could have alleviated
a lot of heartburn, apparently. But, granted, going in, one never
thinks the contractor would do substandard work so it isn't routinely
thought of to include such specificity.


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