Septic question for Dave Jeeves or others

Posted by v8z on April 22, 2009, 12:14 pm

We're building a new house - 2500 sq ft., 4 bedrooms, 4 occupants. The
county in Ohio where I live set requirements as 1000 gallon scrap tank and
1000 gallon ATU, output gravity feed to 1200 lineal feet of
Evapotranspiration (ET) trenches.

An annual pumping requirement is probably tied to kick-backs, but there's no
way to avoid that expense. However, I've been told that you cannot
discharge water conditioning brine into the septic, nor can you discharge it
to the sump / foundation drains / daylight, and was given a list of
subscription brine haulers.......county's argument was that the salt can
harm the septic tank.

I've spoken with several builders and water conditioning folks, and the
common reply is to wait until the system is inspected, THEN install the
conditioning and drain into the septic. My dad has been doing this for 25+
years in rural New York and has never had a problem. Any research, data,
or personal experiences as to why I shouldn't go that way?

Posted by Steve Barker on April 23, 2009, 12:45 am

v8z wrote:

> We're building a new house - 2500 sq ft., 4 bedrooms, 4 occupants. The
> county in Ohio where I live set requirements as 1000 gallon scrap tank and
> 1000 gallon ATU, output gravity feed to 1200 lineal feet of
> Evapotranspiration (ET) trenches.
>
> An annual pumping requirement is probably tied to kick-backs, but there's no
> way to avoid that expense. However, I've been told that you cannot
> discharge water conditioning brine into the septic, nor can you discharge it
> to the sump / foundation drains / daylight, and was given a list of
> subscription brine haulers.......county's argument was that the salt can
> harm the septic tank.
>
> I've spoken with several builders and water conditioning folks, and the
> common reply is to wait until the system is inspected, THEN install the
> conditioning and drain into the septic. My dad has been doing this for 25+
> years in rural New York and has never had a problem. Any research, data,
> or personal experiences as to why I shouldn't go that way?
>
>

option #2. Don't have a softner.

Posted by willshak on April 23, 2009, 7:32 am

on 4/23/2009 12:45 AM (ET) Steve Barker wrote the following:

> v8z wrote:

>> We're building a new house - 2500 sq ft., 4 bedrooms, 4 occupants.
>> The county in Ohio where I live set requirements as 1000 gallon scrap
>> tank and 1000 gallon ATU, output gravity feed to 1200 lineal feet of
>> Evapotranspiration (ET) trenches.
>> An annual pumping requirement is probably tied to kick-backs, but
>> there's no way to avoid that expense. However, I've been told that
>> you cannot discharge water conditioning brine into the septic, nor
>> can you discharge it to the sump / foundation drains / daylight, and
>> was given a list of subscription brine haulers.......county's
>> argument was that the salt can harm the septic tank.
>> I've spoken with several builders and water conditioning folks, and
>> the common reply is to wait until the system is inspected, THEN
>> install the conditioning and drain into the septic. My dad has been
>> doing this for 25+ years in rural New York and has never had a
>> problem. Any research, data, or personal experiences as to why I
>> shouldn't go that way?

> option #2. Don't have a softner.

Option #3. Install a separate dry well for "grey water".
All my sinks, bath and shower, and dishwasher drain into a dry well
separate from the septic tank and fields.
When I had a water softener installed, it too drained into the dry well.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Posted by jloomis on April 23, 2009, 9:13 am

This is called a "grey water" system, and works wonderful except that it is
not an approved system by the county......at least here.....

> on 4/23/2009 12:45 AM (ET) Steve Barker wrote the following:

>> v8z wrote:

>>> We're building a new house - 2500 sq ft., 4 bedrooms, 4 occupants. The
>>> county in Ohio where I live set requirements as 1000 gallon scrap tank
>>> and 1000 gallon ATU, output gravity feed to 1200 lineal feet of
>>> Evapotranspiration (ET) trenches.
>>> An annual pumping requirement is probably tied to kick-backs, but
>>> there's no way to avoid that expense. However, I've been told that you
>>> cannot discharge water conditioning brine into the septic, nor can you
>>> discharge it to the sump / foundation drains / daylight, and was given a
>>> list of subscription brine haulers.......county's argument was that the
>>> salt can harm the septic tank.
>>> I've spoken with several builders and water conditioning folks, and the
>>> common reply is to wait until the system is inspected, THEN install the
>>> conditioning and drain into the septic. My dad has been doing this for
>>> 25+ years in rural New York and has never had a problem. Any research,
>>> data, or personal experiences as to why I shouldn't go that way?

>> option #2. Don't have a softner.

> Option #3. Install a separate dry well for "grey water".
> All my sinks, bath and shower, and dishwasher drain into a dry well
> separate from the septic tank and fields.
> When I had a water softener installed, it too drained into the dry well.
> --
> Bill
> In Hamptonburgh, NY
> In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
> To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Posted by v8z on April 23, 2009, 10:09 am

> This is called a "grey water" system, and works wonderful except that it
> is not an approved system by the county......at least here.....

>> on 4/23/2009 12:45 AM (ET) Steve Barker wrote the following:

>>> v8z wrote:
>>>> We're building a new house - 2500 sq ft., 4 bedrooms, 4 occupants. The
>>>> county in Ohio where I live set requirements as 1000 gallon scrap tank
>>>> and 1000 gallon ATU, output gravity feed to 1200 lineal feet of
>>>> Evapotranspiration (ET) trenches.
>>>> An annual pumping requirement is probably tied to kick-backs, but
>>>> there's no way to avoid that expense. However, I've been told that you
>>>> cannot discharge water conditioning brine into the septic, nor can you
>>>> discharge it to the sump / foundation drains / daylight, and was given
>>>> a list of subscription brine haulers.......county's argument was that
>>>> the salt can harm the septic tank.
>>>> I've spoken with several builders and water conditioning folks, and the
>>>> common reply is to wait until the system is inspected, THEN install the
>>>> conditioning and drain into the septic. My dad has been doing this for
>>>> 25+ years in rural New York and has never had a problem. Any research,
>>>> data, or personal experiences as to why I shouldn't go that way?
>>> option #2. Don't have a softner.

>> Option #3. Install a separate dry well for "grey water".
>> All my sinks, bath and shower, and dishwasher drain into a dry well
>> separate from the septic tank and fields.
>> When I had a water softener installed, it too drained into the dry well.

Option 2 - could do without a softener, but we have to have a flushable iron
/ hydrogen sulfide filter.
Option 3 - same prohibition of grey water systems here.

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