Share your accidents and close-calls so others can learn from them?

A white sheppard puppy can do some dammage with teeth too, they razor sharp
and curved, ours caught me right at the edge of my finger nail while I was
feeding her something, it sank in and I jerked back, OUCH ripped out some
meat there with it also, hurt for a month.

> on 8/10/2007 2:28 PM B A R R Y said the following:

> > Doug Miller wrote:

> >>

> >> Fortunately, he wasn't badly hurt, and has almost completely

> >> recovered. His left big toe is about 1/4" shorter than it used to be;

> >> other than that, he's fine, and has been playing soccer again for a

> >> couple weeks now.

> >

> > I didn't look, thanks for the warning. It's good to hear he's OK!

> > Lawnmowers can do ugly things.

> The pic is not that bad. No foot in the pic, just a sneaker and sock. My

> Golden Retriever, as a pup, did more damage to one of my shoes than that

> mower. :-)

> --

> Bill

> In Hamptonburgh, NY

> To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Posted by Roy Smith on August 10, 2007, 2:51 pm

spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote:

> >All kids are immortal and immune to things that happen to other people.

> My son (just turned 16) received a painful reminder of his own mortality from

> a lawnmower at the end of June:

> http://www.milmac.com/MangledShoe.jpg <WARNING: not for the faint of heart>

> Fortunately, he wasn't badly hurt, and has almost completely recovered. His

> left big toe is about 1/4" shorter than it used to be; other than that, he's

> fine, and has been playing soccer again for a couple weeks now.

With a little luck, the wisdom he got from that will help him reach his
17th birthday (and many more).

Posted by Charlie on August 12, 2007, 11:53 am

> The problem I see with accidents and the young people around here, is they

> do not want to follow rules. Any rules!

> The respect they get from their friends grows with the severity of the

> accidents they have. The worse the accident, the more "respect" they get

> from their "friends".

> Their thinking is: Don't read any rules. Don't follow any rules. Do the

> opposite!

> What they don't understand is that many rules/laws are in place to protect

> THEM. This is advice handed down from others who have had accidents or by

> a community which wants to prevent such accidents from occurring in the

> future.

> I'm talking about safety rules in the front of instruction manuals, OSHA

> rules, driving laws/rules, building code rules, etc.

> No one ever thinks about WHY rules/laws were created in the first place.

> Why it says to wear safety goggles. Why there is a speed limit. Why you

> should wear a safety harness when working high up. Etc.

> Actually these rules/laws are a detailed history of accidents which have

> happened in the past. So when it says to wear eye protection, this is

> because someone has used that piece of equipment in the past and had an

> eye injury. Or the electrical code says to do your wiring in a certain

> manner - well someone died in the past or was electrocuted because the

> wiring was not done in this manner.

> So these young people can start their lives by reading and following

> rules/laws. Or they can place their lives in the hands of Darwin... (In my

> area, Darwin has claimed the lives of 3 young people already this summer.)

> Needless...

To be honest, I have seen more accidents in my 20+ years of commercial
construction that were caused by careless "old timers" who were confident
that they were in complete control. I have corrected safety issues with the
younger guys on the site, but the seasoned vets believe they know more than
I do and continue on doing it however they want.

Charlie

Posted by Thomas G. Marshall on August 13, 2007, 9:35 am

"Charlie" <None> wrote in message

...[rip]...

>> So these young people can start their lives by reading and following

>> rules/laws. Or they can place their lives in the hands of Darwin... (In

>> my area, Darwin has claimed the lives of 3 young people already this

>> summer.) Needless...

> To be honest, I have seen more accidents in my 20+ years of commercial

> construction that were caused by careless "old timers" who were confident

> that they were in complete control. I have corrected safety issues with

> the younger guys on the site, but the seasoned vets believe they know more

> than I do and continue on doing it however they want.

> Charlie

I believe both sides. But this reminds me. For what it's worth, when I was
becoming certified for scuba, the instructor pointed out that she was not
the slightest bit worried about the inexperienced divers such as us at the
time. It was always the experienced divers becoming overconfident, and
especially the experienced divers who have not dived in a long time and jump
right back into it, that too often get hurt. Or die.

Posted by charlieb on August 13, 2007, 8:24 pm

Thomas G. Marshall wrote:

> I believe both sides. But this reminds me. For what it's worth, when I was

> becoming certified for scuba, the instructor pointed out that she was not

> the slightest bit worried about the inexperienced divers such as us at the

> time. It was always the experienced divers becoming overconfident, and

> especially the experienced divers who have not dived in a long time and jump

> right back into it, that too often get hurt. Or die.

My diving instructor had us all play underwater rugby the first
night.
The idea was for someone to get, hold, and deposit a 5 pound block
of rubber in a bucket at one end of the pool. Other than that, there
were no rules. Now 8 feet of water isn't very deep, until you're
near
the bottom - with the "ball" - almost out of air and four or five
guys
allegedly trying to take the "ball" away from you but actually trying
to drowned your sorry ass to eliminate some competition. The
macho guys were the first ones that had to be pulled from the pool
and resucitated after pushing themselves WAY passed their limit
(or being held under well passed their limit).

The lesson taught - when you're in or under the water - NEVER
get even close to what you think is your limit. When your tank
tells you it's time to surface - do it.

Other lessons taught

When a current grabs you go with it, fighting it will kill you.
It WILL let you go after a while and the ride can be quite
exilerating.

If you don't know for sure that it's edible, don't shoot it.

If you're not sure you can kill it - don't shoot it.

At or below 60 feet, if you see a liquid in your mask that
ain't water clear but rather sort of green - DO NOT CLEAR
YOUR MASK - that's blood - the water filters out red first.
Head up and out and find out why your nose is bleeding.

Always dive with at least one partner - and keep him/her
on the "blue water" side - cuts your chances of getting
shark bit in half, even lower if you're on the shallow
water side.

NEVER get out of the water with a loaded speargun.

DO NOT point a loaded spear gun at your instructor and
show him how you bent your spear point on a rock with
your last shot. ( I actually saw a student do that. He
spent a two day trip sitting on board while the rest of
us were out for grouper and lobsters) .

If you're dumb enough to shoot a Parrot Fish, don't
show it to your diving instructor or brag about the
BIG fish you got. Parrot Fish are the puppy dogs of
the reef -and they put a lot of blood in the water
if you poke a hole in them.

Unless you absolutely know what's in a hole - DO NOT
STICK YOUR ARM IN IT.

If you aren't sure the opening in the other end is
big enough for you to get through DO NOT SWIM
INTO A CAVE / TUNNEL.

Back to woodworking

If that little voice in the back of your head is saying
"DON"T DO IT!" - then don't do it, whatever "it" is.

An often overlooked danger - you've just milled up
a board and it now has nice square corners and nice
square edges. They WILL cut you if they have a
chance to slide against your tissue. So if you grab
that freshly milled Four Square board, make sure
you've got a good grip on it - or have BandAids
readily available.

DO NOT move cut offs away from a running bandsaw
blade with any part of your body.

If something doesn't sound right - find out why.\

When a chisel or anything else with a sharp cutting
edge is falling off your bench DO NOT TRY AND CATCH
IT.

If your jaw is clenched or your shoulders are tight
your body is trying to tell you something. Find out
what that is ASAP.

If you work alone in a detached building, or even a
basement, keep a portable phone or cell phone on
you. You may be the only one who can call 911 in
time.

A full sheet of 3/4" MDF is heavy and slippery.
If you're lifting it off a table or bench to get
it vertical for carrying, and it slips, all that weight
and all that momentum will usually land on one or
both of your feet. Get help or cut it down to
manageable pieces.

Nail guns, and even pin nailers may not drive the
nail like you think they will. Shooting a nail -
even a pin nail - into your finger and thumb is
not a good idea. Keep fingers and thumbs well
away from where the nail MIGHT go.

charlie b

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