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Silly question but... Is a toilet required in a home?? T. C. Conde 08-19-2008
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Posted by tbasc@bellsouth.net on August 20, 2008, 7:34 am


> > =A0 =A0 I am doing work in a home owned by handicapped paople. They wan=
t to turn
> > the entire small bathroom into a shower, eliminating the vanity and the
> > toilet. They don't need a toilet (theoretically) since they both have b=
ags
> > and never use a toilet for any reason. I have tried to explain that peo=
ple
> > come to visit and what are they supposed to do, and it would be a bitch=
to
> > sell (can you see the real estate ad "Nice three bedroom, no bath. Fabu=
lous
> > shower but no toilet"). I have never seen anything saying that a toilet=
(or
> > even a bathroom) was a REQUIREMENT in a home. If you didn't mind taking=
a
> > leak in the kitchen sink, is a toilet necessary BY CODE in a home. I kn=
ow
> > that seems like a silly question, but I need this one.
> > Thanks everybody.
> NY State Code reads:
> =A7RR306.1 Toilet facilities. Every dwelling unit shall be provided with
> a
> water closet, lavatory, and a bathtub or shower.
> R

International Residential Code has same paragraph.
T

Posted by RicodJour on August 20, 2008, 8:09 am


> > NY State Code reads:
> > =A7RR306.1 Toilet facilities. Every dwelling unit shall be provided wit=
h
> > a
> > water closet, lavatory, and a bathtub or shower.
> International Residential Code has same paragraph.

The NY State code is essentially the IRC with some modifications. Not
quite interchangeable, but close.

R


Posted by Dioclese on August 20, 2008, 6:53 pm


> > NY State Code reads:
> > §RR306.1 Toilet facilities. Every dwelling unit shall be provided with
> > a
> > water closet, lavatory, and a bathtub or shower.
> International Residential Code has same paragraph.

The NY State code is essentially the IRC with some modifications. Not
quite interchangeable, but close.

R
------------

The municipality of Wimberley, TX also uses the IRC for their basis of
building codes. IRC varies depending on the year of publication/release.
And, the IRC version (year) used for a basis is part of the law providing
for building code that adopts the IRC for a basis in a municipality. Not
the IRC per se as you stated.

Colostomy bag waste goes to the same place as a person with normally
operating excrement functions go to.

Shady areas. Some builders use plans only that adhere to some IRC version
or some other building code in rural areas of other states that may have no
building code, but have the local county may have codes regarding septic
system construction. At the same time, there is no requirement to use the
local bath facilities for ridding of personal excrement. Point being, the
OP may fall into that classification. Guess we will never know... Thus my
hesitancy to make a direct reply.
--
Dave



Posted by RicodJour on August 20, 2008, 7:04 pm


On Aug 20, 6:53=A0pm, "Dioclese" <NONE> wrote:
> > > NY State Code reads:
> > > =A7RR306.1 Toilet facilities. Every dwelling unit shall be provided w=
ith
> > > a
> > > water closet, lavatory, and a bathtub or shower.
> > International Residential Code has same paragraph.
> The NY State code is essentially the IRC with some modifications. =A0Not
> quite interchangeable, but close.
> ------------
> The municipality of Wimberley, TX also uses the IRC for their basis of
> building codes. =A0IRC varies depending on the year of publication/releas=
e.
> And, the IRC version (year) used for a basis is part of the law providing
> for building code that adopts the IRC for a basis in a municipality. =A0N=
ot
> the IRC per se as you stated.

Odd. I'm surprised that the word essentially confused you. :)~

R



Posted by TKM on August 19, 2008, 6:45 pm



> I am doing work in a home owned by handicapped paople. They want to
> turn the entire small bathroom into a shower, eliminating the vanity and
> the toilet. They don't need a toilet (theoretically) since they both have
> bags and never use a toilet for any reason. I have tried to explain that
> people come to visit and what are they supposed to do, and it would be a
> bitch to sell (can you see the real estate ad "Nice three bedroom, no
> bath. Fabulous shower but no toilet"). I have never seen anything saying
> that a toilet (or even a bathroom) was a REQUIREMENT in a home. If you
> didn't mind taking a leak in the kitchen sink, is a toilet necessary BY
> CODE in a home. I know that seems like a silly question, but I need this
> one.
> Thanks everybody.

If there's a building code covering the area, a toilet is likely required.

I tried to build a cabin on a couple of acres outside of a municipality in
Ohio. I not only found that a toilet was required, but it also had to be a
standard (water) type -- no composting toilet or outhouse. Further, the
land had to undergo a "percolation test" to ensure that the output of the
septic tank could be absorbed into the ground. The results of the
percolation test also limit the number of people allowed to live in the
house. In this case it was all handled through the county building
department which issues the building permits.

TKM



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