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Small Bay Window 45 x 45 John Curtiss 09-02-2006
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Posted by John Curtiss on September 2, 2006, 3:30 am
I have a small 28W x 35H kitchen window and are planning to open the window
up to 45 x 45 and install a small bay window - probably each of the 3 panels
would be the same width. There is no problem opening the wall up, but I am
running into windows companies having a minimum opening of 60-in wide. They
all try to talk me into a large window but I am limited on space so 45 is
the max.

Couple of questions -- why is the bay window so much more expensive to
purchase and install that the standard tract-home style sliding window?
Prices I am getting are about $1100 to enlarge the window to code, another
$1000 for the window and another $1000 to install it.

Thanks in advance!



Posted by DT on September 2, 2006, 10:41 am
>
>I have a small 28W x 35H kitchen window and are planning to open the window
>up to 45 x 45 and install a small bay window - probably each of the 3 panels
>would be the same width. There is no problem opening the wall up, but I am
>running into windows companies having a minimum opening of 60-in wide. They
>all try to talk me into a large window but I am limited on space so 45 is
>the max.
>

A quick check of my Andersen catalog shows that their smallest is 56", and
those are 90 degree box bays, not angled bays. Their smallest angle bay is 64".
45" would really be a small bay. If you can't locate a standard 45" unit, it
could be made up from individual windows, but that is a lot of expert
woodworking.

I'm running into a similar sizing problem. I would like to put eliptical
sunbursts over two 36" windows, but nobody makes eliptical versions under 63",
only half-round.

--
Dennis


Posted by John Curtiss on September 3, 2006, 3:11 am
Thanks, Dennis. Keep looking for those sunbursts! You'll find them
somewhere I'm sure.

says...
> >
> >I have a small 28W x 35H kitchen window and are planning to open the
window
> >up to 45 x 45 and install a small bay window - probably each of the 3
panels
> >would be the same width. There is no problem opening the wall up, but I
am
> >running into windows companies having a minimum opening of 60-in wide.
They
> >all try to talk me into a large window but I am limited on space so 45 is
> >the max.
> >
>
> A quick check of my Andersen catalog shows that their smallest is 56", and
> those are 90 degree box bays, not angled bays. Their smallest angle bay is
64".
> 45" would really be a small bay. If you can't locate a standard 45" unit,
it
> could be made up from individual windows, but that is a lot of expert
> woodworking.
>
> I'm running into a similar sizing problem. I would like to put eliptical
> sunbursts over two 36" windows, but nobody makes eliptical versions under
63",
> only half-round.
>
> --
> Dennis
>



Posted by dpb on September 2, 2006, 2:50 pm

John Curtiss wrote:
> I have a small 28W x 35H kitchen window and are planning to open the window
> up to 45 x 45 and install a small bay window - probably each of the 3 panels
> would be the same width. There is no problem opening the wall up, but I am
> running into windows companies having a minimum opening of 60-in wide. They
> all try to talk me into a large window but I am limited on space so 45 is
> the max.
>
> Couple of questions -- why is the bay window so much more expensive to
> purchase and install that the standard tract-home style sliding window?

Well, how does the fully complete bay compare to three standard
windows?

> Prices I am getting are about $1100 to enlarge the window to code, ...

What code are we speaking of here? Can't be an egress consideration,
surely??? I was assuming this was over sink in kitchen but guess it
could be elsewhere.

If you're limited to less than what standard sizes are available, your
choices are to either forget the idea, have a custom unit manufactured
(say $$$) or build in-situ. Depending on where you are, there may be
local manufacturers who will do the second and depending on your
project you may be able to get the last. Except for the potential for
having the opening open to the weather for a longer time, it's likely
the most cost-effective option if you can arrange it to use standard
sizes for all three. This small, I'd be tempted to make the two side
units relatively small and fixed.


Posted by John Curtiss on September 3, 2006, 3:09 am
>
> John Curtiss wrote:
> > I have a small 28W x 35H kitchen window and are planning to open the
window
> > up to 45 x 45 and install a small bay window - probably each of the 3
panels
> > would be the same width. There is no problem opening the wall up, but I
am
> > running into windows companies having a minimum opening of 60-in wide.
They
> > all try to talk me into a large window but I am limited on space so 45
is
> > the max.
> >
> > Couple of questions -- why is the bay window so much more expensive to
> > purchase and install that the standard tract-home style sliding window?
>
> Well, how does the fully complete bay compare to three standard
> windows?

Std windows are around $150-250 plus $200 each for installation. Even if you
enlarge all three std window frames, the small bay is still less.

> > Prices I am getting are about $1100 to enlarge the window to code, ...
>
> What code are we speaking of here? Can't be an egress consideration,
> surely??? I was assuming this was over sink in kitchen but guess it
> could be elsewhere.

Yes, over the sink. I'm talking about installing the new header, water
seal, etc. -- typical things inspectors look for when creating a new
opening. Egress is not a factor here.

> If you're limited to less than what standard sizes are available, your
> choices are to either forget the idea, have a custom unit manufactured
> (say $$$) or build in-situ.

Today we found a standard "off the shelf" bay with 30 degree sides instead
of 45. Looks great, and they can do 45-inches wide as standard. And can go
down to 36-inches wide. And the two side panels are casement.

> Depending on where you are, there may be
> local manufacturers who will do the second and depending on your
> project you may be able to get the last. Except for the potential for
> having the opening open to the weather for a longer time, it's likely
> the most cost-effective option if you can arrange it to use standard
> sizes for all three. This small, I'd be tempted to make the two side
> units relatively small and fixed.




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