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Small sandblasting set up Harry Palmer 06-04-2007
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Posted by PeterD on June 6, 2007, 8:28 am
wrote:

>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Anyone got experience with the small sandblasting units like this one
>> >http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34202
>> >
>> >
>> >What would be great is to point me at a web site that helps a novice like
>me
>> >figure out how much sand to put in it, how to pressurize it properly and
>how
>> >to set the valve levers when it's in operation. I have followed the
>> >instructions but it seems to only really work for about three minutes
>before
>> >it loses pressure, I know it's something I'm doing wrong but I don't know
>> >what. If anyone has experience with these things I would appreciate some
>> >help.
>> >
>> >Harry
>>
>> Can your air compressor deliver the 6-25 SCFM needed? I'd guess the
>> real air demand is about 12-15 SCFM which is a *large* compressor.
>
>Hey peter
>
> I just went upstairs and wrote down the setup details from the setup
>
>the sand blaster is
>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=44762
>
>
> a.. Abrasive hose: 8 ft. x 3.4'' diameter
> b.. Valve material: brass
> c.. Abrasive capacity: 20 lbs.
> d.. Air consumption: CFM 6-20 @ 125 PSI
> e.. Air inlet size: 1/4'' NPT
>AND the compressor is
>
>Air america 5 hp 20 gallon Model f5020
>displacement 11.9 cfm
>8.8 scfm @ 40 psi
>6.9 scfm @ 90 psi
>
> What do you think?
>
>Harry
>

Compressor is not large enough... <g> That 6-20 CFM on the sand
blaster is a bit misleading. The lower value(s) are if you are using
it about 10% of the time, basically playing. They give that number so
people who have small compressors will still buy it!

Best bet may be to rent a big compressor (I'd suggest one that can do
20 CFM) for the job.

Bottom line: a 7 CMF compressor won't give enough air.

Posted by Harry Palmer on June 6, 2007, 9:36 am

> wrote:
>
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Anyone got experience with the small sandblasting units like this one
> >> >http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34202
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >What would be great is to point me at a web site that helps a novice
like
> >me
> >> >figure out how much sand to put in it, how to pressurize it properly
and
> >how
> >> >to set the valve levers when it's in operation. I have followed the
> >> >instructions but it seems to only really work for about three minutes
> >before
> >> >it loses pressure, I know it's something I'm doing wrong but I don't
know
> >> >what. If anyone has experience with these things I would appreciate
some
> >> >help.
> >> >
> >> >Harry
> >>
> >> Can your air compressor deliver the 6-25 SCFM needed? I'd guess the
> >> real air demand is about 12-15 SCFM which is a *large* compressor.
> >
> >Hey peter
> >
> > I just went upstairs and wrote down the setup details from the setup
> >
> >the sand blaster is
> >http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=44762
> >
> >
> > a.. Abrasive hose: 8 ft. x 3.4'' diameter
> > b.. Valve material: brass
> > c.. Abrasive capacity: 20 lbs.
> > d.. Air consumption: CFM 6-20 @ 125 PSI
> > e.. Air inlet size: 1/4'' NPT
> >AND the compressor is
> >
> >Air america 5 hp 20 gallon Model f5020
> >displacement 11.9 cfm
> >8.8 scfm @ 40 psi
> >6.9 scfm @ 90 psi
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> >Harry
> >
>
> Compressor is not large enough... <g> That 6-20 CFM on the sand
> blaster is a bit misleading. The lower value(s) are if you are using
> it about 10% of the time, basically playing. They give that number so
> people who have small compressors will still buy it!
>
> Best bet may be to rent a big compressor (I'd suggest one that can do
> 20 CFM) for the job.
>
> Bottom line: a 7 CMF compressor won't give enough air.

thanks this makes more sense now, I'll go out and rent a bigger one. Thanks
for your help.

Harry



Posted by Steve Barker on June 7, 2007, 1:32 am
the output of the compressor only dictates how continuous you can blast.
Even a little dinky compressor with a big tank will work if you don't mind
waiting for it to recover. I have a little itty bitty emglo compressor on
top of an old 110 gallon tank, I can do anything I want as long as I don't
mind waiting. In the case of blasting, air sanding, etc.

--
Steve Barker





>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Anyone got experience with the small sandblasting units like this one
>> >> >http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34202
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >What would be great is to point me at a web site that helps a novice
> like
>> >me
>> >> >figure out how much sand to put in it, how to pressurize it properly
> and
>> >how
>> >> >to set the valve levers when it's in operation. I have followed the
>> >> >instructions but it seems to only really work for about three minutes
>> >before
>> >> >it loses pressure, I know it's something I'm doing wrong but I don't
> know
>> >> >what. If anyone has experience with these things I would appreciate
> some
>> >> >help.
>> >> >
>> >> >Harry
>> >>
>> >> Can your air compressor deliver the 6-25 SCFM needed? I'd guess the
>> >> real air demand is about 12-15 SCFM which is a *large* compressor.
>> >
>> >Hey peter
>> >
>> > I just went upstairs and wrote down the setup details from the setup
>> >
>> >the sand blaster is
>> >http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=44762
>> >
>> >
>> > a.. Abrasive hose: 8 ft. x 3.4'' diameter
>> > b.. Valve material: brass
>> > c.. Abrasive capacity: 20 lbs.
>> > d.. Air consumption: CFM 6-20 @ 125 PSI
>> > e.. Air inlet size: 1/4'' NPT
>> >AND the compressor is
>> >
>> >Air america 5 hp 20 gallon Model f5020
>> >displacement 11.9 cfm
>> >8.8 scfm @ 40 psi
>> >6.9 scfm @ 90 psi
>> >
>> > What do you think?
>> >
>> >Harry
>> >
>>
>> Compressor is not large enough... <g> That 6-20 CFM on the sand
>> blaster is a bit misleading. The lower value(s) are if you are using
>> it about 10% of the time, basically playing. They give that number so
>> people who have small compressors will still buy it!
>>
>> Best bet may be to rent a big compressor (I'd suggest one that can do
>> 20 CFM) for the job.
>>
>> Bottom line: a 7 CMF compressor won't give enough air.
>
> thanks this makes more sense now, I'll go out and rent a bigger one.
> Thanks
> for your help.
>
> Harry
>
>



Posted by Harry Palmer on June 7, 2007, 5:11 am

> the output of the compressor only dictates how continuous you can blast.
> Even a little dinky compressor with a big tank will work if you don't mind
> waiting for it to recover. I have a little itty bitty emglo compressor on
> top of an old 110 gallon tank, I can do anything I want as long as I
don't
> mind waiting. In the case of blasting, air sanding, etc.
>
> --
> Steve Barker
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Anyone got experience with the small sandblasting units like this
one
> >> >>
>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34202
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >What would be great is to point me at a web site that helps a
novice
> > like
> >> >me
> >> >> >figure out how much sand to put in it, how to pressurize it
properly
> > and
> >> >how
> >> >> >to set the valve levers when it's in operation. I have followed the
> >> >> >instructions but it seems to only really work for about three
minutes
> >> >before
> >> >> >it loses pressure, I know it's something I'm doing wrong but I
don't
> > know
> >> >> >what. If anyone has experience with these things I would appreciate
> > some
> >> >> >help.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Harry
> >> >>
> >> >> Can your air compressor deliver the 6-25 SCFM needed? I'd guess the
> >> >> real air demand is about 12-15 SCFM which is a *large* compressor.
> >> >
> >> >Hey peter
> >> >
> >> > I just went upstairs and wrote down the setup details from the setup
> >> >
> >> >the sand blaster is
> >> >http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=44762
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > a.. Abrasive hose: 8 ft. x 3.4'' diameter
> >> > b.. Valve material: brass
> >> > c.. Abrasive capacity: 20 lbs.
> >> > d.. Air consumption: CFM 6-20 @ 125 PSI
> >> > e.. Air inlet size: 1/4'' NPT
> >> >AND the compressor is
> >> >
> >> >Air america 5 hp 20 gallon Model f5020
> >> >displacement 11.9 cfm
> >> >8.8 scfm @ 40 psi
> >> >6.9 scfm @ 90 psi
> >> >
> >> > What do you think?
> >> >
> >> >Harry
> >> >
> >>
> >> Compressor is not large enough... <g> That 6-20 CFM on the sand
> >> blaster is a bit misleading. The lower value(s) are if you are using
> >> it about 10% of the time, basically playing. They give that number so
> >> people who have small compressors will still buy it!
> >>
> >> Best bet may be to rent a big compressor (I'd suggest one that can do
> >> 20 CFM) for the job.
> >>
> >> Bottom line: a 7 CMF compressor won't give enough air.
> >
> > thanks this makes more sense now, I'll go out and rent a bigger one.
> > Thanks
> > for your help.
> >
> > Harry
> >
> >
>
>

thanks for the heads up steve, I'm pretty patient but it's a big loft ( 60
* 30 ft) with a apex at about 14 feet.



Posted by Bobk207 on June 8, 2007, 12:00 pm
>
>
>
>
> > the output of the compressor only dictates how continuous you can blast.
> > Even a little dinky compressor with a big tank will work if you don't mind
> > waiting for it to recover. I have a little itty bitty emglo compressor on
> > top of an old 110 gallon tank, I can do anything I want as long as I
> don't
> > mind waiting. In the case of blasting, air sanding, etc.
>
> > --
> > Steve Barker
>
>
> > >> wrote:
>
> > >> >> wrote:
>
> > >> >> >Anyone got experience with the small sandblasting units like this
> one
>
> >http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34202
>
> > >> >> >What would be great is to point me at a web site that helps a
> novice
> > > like
> > >> >me
> > >> >> >figure out how much sand to put in it, how to pressurize it
> properly
> > > and
> > >> >how
> > >> >> >to set the valve levers when it's in operation. I have followed the
> > >> >> >instructions but it seems to only really work for about three
> minutes
> > >> >before
> > >> >> >it loses pressure, I know it's something I'm doing wrong but I
> don't
> > > know
> > >> >> >what. If anyone has experience with these things I would appreciate
> > > some
> > >> >> >help.
>
> > >> >> >Harry
>
> > >> >> Can your air compressor deliver the 6-25 SCFM needed? I'd guess the
> > >> >> real air demand is about 12-15 SCFM which is a *large* compressor.
>
> > >> >Hey peter
>
> > >> > I just went upstairs and wrote down the setup details from the setup
>
> > >> >the sand blaster is
> > >> >http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=44762
>
> > >> > a.. Abrasive hose: 8 ft. x 3.4'' diameter
> > >> > b.. Valve material: brass
> > >> > c.. Abrasive capacity: 20 lbs.
> > >> > d.. Air consumption: CFM 6-20 @ 125 PSI
> > >> > e.. Air inlet size: 1/4'' NPT
> > >> >AND the compressor is
>
> > >> >Air america 5 hp 20 gallon Model f5020
> > >> >displacement 11.9 cfm
> > >> >8.8 scfm @ 40 psi
> > >> >6.9 scfm @ 90 psi
>
> > >> > What do you think?
>
> > >> >Harry
>
> > >> Compressor is not large enough... <g> That 6-20 CFM on the sand
> > >> blaster is a bit misleading. The lower value(s) are if you are using
> > >> it about 10% of the time, basically playing. They give that number so
> > >> people who have small compressors will still buy it!
>
> > >> Best bet may be to rent a big compressor (I'd suggest one that can do
> > >> 20 CFM) for the job.
>
> > >> Bottom line: a 7 CMF compressor won't give enough air.
>
> > > thanks this makes more sense now, I'll go out and rent a bigger one.
> > > Thanks
> > > for your help.
>
> > > Harry
>
> thanks for the heads up steve, I'm pretty patient but it's a big loft ( 60
> * 30 ft) with a apex at about 14 feet.

All good suggestions.......

you need a bigger compressor if you want to get serious work done in
reasonable amount of time (& not keep waiting for the compressor)

Compressor mfrs overstate their horsepower & cfm numbers....tool mfrs
tend to get wide ranges with low ends that just don't work.

The combination results in general disappointment in using air tools.
With good tools & the right amount of air....air tool usage is really
sweet.


One thing not mentioned is provide for media / debris collection
(heavy plastic, drops or cardboard arranged so that all flows into a
trough or container)

otherwise you'll generate a real mess in that attic. I set up a
"blast booth" (only three sides & a top) to corral the sand & debris
(paint).

I re-used the sand by running it through a series of sieves to get the
junk out. If you're got real messy stuff to deal with, re-use might
not be an option.


cheers
Bob


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