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Solar panels Dave 05-29-2007
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Posted by Dave on May 29, 2007, 8:51 am
Saw on TV news report last night about solar panel installation.
Apparently, there's a tax discount for this. Local facility will do a 30
sq. ft. installation with needed wiring and panel modifications for about
$22K. City of Austin, TX offers a $13K discount as well. Must be done by a
contractor, not a do it yourself. If so, no discount.

Am waiting for a installation kit for the DIY guy. Possibly with support
from a qualified electrician for installing panels to reintroduce power to
the power company to allow supplying the grid and get discount on same.
Hopefully, less expensive. Would like to do the majority of the south
facing roof in solar panels. No obstructions on that side of the roof.
Would like to see support from the home insurance industry for replacement
in event of severe hail, and otherwise for fire and such. Would also like
to see this in new home contract as an option at minimum, embedding the
wiring and panels as part of the normal electrical plans. Perhaps, leaving
out all but the solar panel installation itself if the owner wants same
later. And, standardization throughout it all.
Dave



Posted by thestuccocompany.com on May 29, 2007, 10:27 am
Dave wrote:


> Must be done
> by a
> contractor, not a do it yourself. If so, no discount.

> Am waiting for a installation kit for the DIY guy. Possibly with
> support
> from a qualified electrician for installing panels to reintroduce power
> to
> the power company to allow supplying the grid and get discount on same.

I don't believe it will ever be a DIY kit simply because of the possible
dangers with high voltage electricity involved. You will always have to
hire a licensed (insured, too!) electrician to do all the connections
properly. I would guess you might offer your help in climbing the roof and
helping with physically installing the panels but the electrician will
have to go by what his insurance company tells him: he may not even be
able to have you involved in the install at all.

D~




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Posted by George on May 29, 2007, 11:53 am
Dave wrote:
> Saw on TV news report last night about solar panel installation.
> Apparently, there's a tax discount for this. Local facility will do a 30
> sq. ft. installation with needed wiring and panel modifications for about
> $22K. City of Austin, TX offers a $13K discount as well. Must be done by a
> contractor, not a do it yourself. If so, no discount.
>
> Am waiting for a installation kit for the DIY guy. Possibly with support
> from a qualified electrician for installing panels to reintroduce power to
> the power company to allow supplying the grid and get discount on same.
> Hopefully, less expensive. Would like to do the majority of the south
> facing roof in solar panels. No obstructions on that side of the roof.
> Would like to see support from the home insurance industry for replacement
> in event of severe hail, and otherwise for fire and such. Would also like
> to see this in new home contract as an option at minimum, embedding the
> wiring and panels as part of the normal electrical plans. Perhaps, leaving
> out all but the solar panel installation itself if the owner wants same
> later. And, standardization throughout it all.
> Dave
>
>
Just my observation. I went to seminars on solar panels and they just
aren't ready for prime time. Even the presenter at one seminar was very
candid that right now this is "feel good" stuff and using current
technology you won't even recover the installation cost. This is just
politicians throwing our money away because they all seem to be afraid
to advocate conservation. The tax discounts and subsidies come out of
our pockets.

Posted by Kay Lancaster on May 29, 2007, 10:42 pm
At least in my part of the country (PNW), photovoltaic panels are not
a break-even project. But solar hot water appears to be economically
quite viable, even if just used as a pre=heat for a regular water heater.

The other issue with PV (or other emerging technologies) is that if
no one invests early on, the technology probably isn't going to develop
any farther. :-/

We're in the process of designing a house, so we've been doing a lot of
checking on such things. At least for us, a heavily sun-tempered design
with solar water heating is looking like fast payback design.



Posted by Dave on May 30, 2007, 12:06 am
> At least in my part of the country (PNW), photovoltaic panels are not
> a break-even project. But solar hot water appears to be economically
> quite viable, even if just used as a pre=heat for a regular water heater.
>
> The other issue with PV (or other emerging technologies) is that if
> no one invests early on, the technology probably isn't going to develop
> any farther. :-/
>
> We're in the process of designing a house, so we've been doing a lot of
> checking on such things. At least for us, a heavily sun-tempered design
> with solar water heating is looking like fast payback design.
>
>

Solar heating of water is quite common in Italy. My observations while
touring the country while on furlough in the Navy. The visual cue is on
their roofs.
Dave



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