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Posted by RicodJour on February 19, 2007, 1:25 am
Dan Deckert wrote:
> well, I agree with the other response -
>
> seeing as how you don't want to be told about
> a.. hurricane strapping
> b.. proper seismic tie ins
> c.. footing details
> d.. interior design/mechanics/usage
> e.. insulation factors
> f.. rafter framing
> g.. building usage
> h.. dimensional sizes
> i.. codes
> or any other "structural" matters pertinent to your question,
> i suppose you've excluded pretty much any comments regarding
> your situation.
>
> why did you even bother posting ?
>
> I'll tell you why;
> Because I only needed answers to the original questions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What? You're the only one that's allowed to ask questions?
> I don't need, nor require, answers to extraneous/frivolous queries
pertaining to any who, what, why, suppositions. I thought the questions would be
extremely simple for people that build with wood, but perhaps I was wrong.
You don't have enough experience in this area of construction to
answer your own questions, but you understand enough to know what you
_don't_ need answered? Doesn't appear that way from the answers.
> A simple wall, different framing details, end of story! Not asking for loads
for wind, snow, siesmic, etc. 2 questions, end of story..................I know
what works with steel, I'm not fully cognizant with what works for wood,
henceforth, my 2 questions.............................
>
> In the event you're one of those individuals that needs a picture, plz.
respond with an address. I can send one to you as a jpg, bmp, gif, wmf, cdr,
png, psd, pdd, rle, dib, eps, psb, pcx, pdp, raw, pct, pict, pxr, pbm, pgm, ppm,
pnm, pdf, sct, tga, vda, icg, vst, tif, tiff, dwg, dwf, skp, skb, 3ds, zip, rar,
mpeg, qtv, psp, etc, etc etc. Just name the format please.
A suggestion. If you are willing to type a list of forty formats, you
have the time to post a couple of pictures so everyone can see what's
going on, and _then_ ask your questions. Answering the odd question
about additional building information/conditions, instead of fielding
questions and comments about your attitude, would probably get you
better answers a whole hell of a lot faster and with less aggravation.
> The reality within this NG is people 'tend', at times, to read more into a
query then is asked. Henceforth my msg. requesting no answers nor queries
regarding;
> a.. hurricane strapping
> a.. proper seismic tie ins
> a.. footing details
> a.. interior design/mechanics/usage
> a.. insulation factors
> a.. rafter framing
> a.. building usage
> a.. dimensional sizes
> a.. codes
>
> Michael's response is correct. (The intermediate blocking between the
vertical studs @ 5' O/C.)
>
> Per;
> >>>BOBk207
>
> >>>And you don't give the location of the "shop"....... I guess you can
> >>>do pretty much whatever you want.
>
> Yes they can! They could build it out of cheese if they wanted to.
> FYI: No seismic, water, wind. Northeastern Washington State if that affects
the design..............
If they can build it out of cheese, and that's okay with them, then
let 'em. If they care about the building, whether there are governing
codes or not, it should be built to last. This implies understanding
the loads likely to be encountered and designing the building
accordingly.
> Query 1.
> Their desire is to replace the intermediate framing with a 1x4 on the
exterior face of the vertical studs at the same elevation as the intermediate
framing and fasten the steel sheets to the 1x4's. IE:sheeting girts
> Albeit the wall depth is increased to 7", anyone see a structural problem
with this?
What is the purpose of removing the horizontal blocking?
> Query 2.
> In lieu of the inset 2x6 diagonal bracing into the vertical wall studs, what
about substituting metal banding that's screwed/nailed to the face of the studs
(interior and or exterior [mutltiple?]) that would wrap/fasten to the upper &
lower plates? As in diagonal brace rods in a PEB?
General idea is fine. You could sheath the corners of the building in
plywood/OSB, suitably nailed, to handle the shear load. Either way,
metal strapping or OSB, the nailing patterns and connections are
either designed to handle specific loads or you're just guessing at
them.
R
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Posted by Michael Bulatovich on February 19, 2007, 8:26 am
> If they can build it out of cheese, and that's okay with them, then
> let 'em. If they care about the building, whether there are governing
> codes or not, it should be built to last. This implies understanding
> the loads likely to be encountered and designing the building
> accordingly.
Cheese is OK, but tofu is better for lateral loads, unless of course the
cheese is one of those soft, unpasteurized ones.
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Posted by RicodJour on February 19, 2007, 11:14 am
Michael Bulatovich wrote:
>
> > If they can build it out of cheese, and that's okay with them, then
> > let 'em. If they care about the building, whether there are governing
> > codes or not, it should be built to last. This implies understanding
> > the loads likely to be encountered and designing the building
> > accordingly.
>
> Cheese is OK, but tofu is better for lateral loads, unless of course the
> cheese is one of those soft, unpasteurized ones.
You Canuckiadians! I suppose in the frigid white North tofu would
behave more predictably due to the lowered temperatures, but if you'd
ever seen a tofu structure that had been baked by the sun you'd be
singing a different tune. Cheese technology is far more advanced.
Ceramics are just non-edible cheese substitutes.
R
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Posted by Bobk207 on February 19, 2007, 9:28 pm
> Michael Bulatovich wrote:
>
> > > If they can build it out of cheese, and that's okay with them, then
> > > let 'em. If they care about the building, whether there are governing
> > > codes or not, it should be built to last. This implies understanding
> > > the loads likely to be encountered and designing the building
> > > accordingly.
>
> > Cheese is OK, but tofu is better for lateral loads, unless of course the
> > cheese is one of those soft, unpasteurized ones.
>
> You Canuckiadians! I suppose in the frigid white North tofu would
> behave more predictably due to the lowered temperatures, but if you'd
> ever seen a tofu structure that had been baked by the sun you'd be
> singing a different tune. Cheese technology is far more advanced.
> Ceramics are just non-edible cheese substitutes.
>
> R
Rico-
You're not keeping up with the latest structural research.
UC Berkeley has developed & patented radiation crosslinked sunlight
resistant tofu, excellent structural performance from +160F to -65F.
It has anICC approval pending for high wind & e/q resistant design
plus in a pinch after the natural disaster (before FEMA arrives) you
can scrape the walls & make a nutritious survival soup.
This tofu also has anti bacterial effects that can be used to purify
water from compromised municipal water supplies.
Additionally it can be used as a wound dressing.
Cheese is SO last century!
cheers
Bob
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Posted by Michael Bulatovich on February 20, 2007, 11:38 am
>> Michael Bulatovich wrote:
>>
>> > > If they can build it out of cheese, and that's okay with them, then
>> > > let 'em. If they care about the building, whether there are
>> > > governing
>> > > codes or not, it should be built to last. This implies understanding
>> > > the loads likely to be encountered and designing the building
>> > > accordingly.
>>
>> > Cheese is OK, but tofu is better for lateral loads, unless of course
>> > the
>> > cheese is one of those soft, unpasteurized ones.
>>
>> You Canuckiadians! I suppose in the frigid white North tofu would
>> behave more predictably due to the lowered temperatures, but if you'd
>> ever seen a tofu structure that had been baked by the sun you'd be
>> singing a different tune. Cheese technology is far more advanced.
>> Ceramics are just non-edible cheese substitutes.
>>
>> R
>
> Rico-
>
> You're not keeping up with the latest structural research.
>
> UC Berkeley has developed & patented radiation crosslinked sunlight
> resistant tofu, excellent structural performance from +160F to -65F.
>
> It has anICC approval pending for high wind & e/q resistant design
> plus in a pinch after the natural disaster (before FEMA arrives) you
> can scrape the walls & make a nutritious survival soup.
>
> This tofu also has anti bacterial effects that can be used to purify
> water from compromised municipal water supplies.
>
> Additionally it can be used as a wound dressing.
>
> Cheese is SO last century!
And subject to nibbling. That never happens with tofu.
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