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Posted by Dan_Musicant on January 5, 2007, 9:23 pm
:dmusicant@pacbell.net says...
:>
:> It works OK. I realize that at this point I'm on my own and I just hope
:> it lasts a real long time because I don't presently like the idea of
:> spending big bucks to fix or replace it.
:>
:
:Remember that when you do eventually need to replace it, you probably
:won't be re-doing the gas plumbing, wiring, or potable water plumbing
:for it. You'll just remove the old unit and install a new one.
:
:Your N-069M-OD sells for under $1,000 on-line. My Takagi is under $900
:these days. Replacement is simple enough you can do it yourself if
:local code allows. (OK, be honest, how many people take out the
:required permits to replace their tank water heaters?)
Good point. I suppose if I still live here and my Noritz goes bad I
might well opt for a similar tankless to replace it since the gas and
plumbing are all right there, and they were AFAIK professionally and
well-installed. To put in a tank water heater would be problematical
because it would have to stand away from the wall at least enough to
clear the dryer vent. The contractor who authorized all this told me I
couldn't do that because I would not be able to strap and support the
tank. This is earthquake country.
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Posted by Dennis on January 8, 2007, 6:45 pm
Dan, there are straps made specifically to anchor water heaters not located
directly aganst a wall. In fact, most of the installations I've inspected
did not bear directly on the wall in back of the heater. In seismic D1 & 2,
you only need to strap in upper and lower 1/3 to withstand movement, and
there are many ways to accomplish this.
>well-installed. To put in a tank water heater would be problematical
> because it would have to stand away from the wall at least enough to
> clear the dryer vent. The contractor who authorized all this told me I
> couldn't do that because I would not be able to strap and support the
> tank. This is earthquake country.
>
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Posted by on January 4, 2007, 10:55 am
Gary KW4Z wrote:
> My plans are to specify a (Gas) Tankless Hot Water Heater in our new home
> for my wife and myself.
1) Demand- 2 shower heads, 8 body washers in one shower and trying to
fill a whirlpool ain't going to cut it.
2) Location- some one in the northern part of the country where service
water comes in @ 40 degrees 4-6 months out of the year is a lot
different from someone in the south where service water is seldom under
70 degrees.
Run the numbers and you'll be fine, don't believe what someone tells
you.
kenny b
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Posted by 7 LAMPSTICKS 7 FEASTS 7 AGES O on January 4, 2007, 5:59 pm
Yes, don't believe anything you hear.
Especially, don't believe this.
kennybs@adelphia.net wrote:
> Gary KW4Z wrote:
> > My plans are to specify a (Gas) Tankless Hot Water Heater in our new home
> > for my wife and myself.
>
> 1) Demand- 2 shower heads, 8 body washers in one shower and trying to
> fill a whirlpool ain't going to cut it.
> 2) Location- some one in the northern part of the country where service
> water comes in @ 40 degrees 4-6 months out of the year is a lot
> different from someone in the south where service water is seldom under
> 70 degrees.
>
> Run the numbers and you'll be fine, don't believe what someone tells
> you.
>
> kenny b
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Posted by Bob Dozier on January 4, 2007, 7:04 pm
Boy, created quite a stir of replies! I have some comments - for what
they're
worth....
- I've seen some posts about payout. Who cares about payout? If you can
afford
one, get one. In my opinion, it uses gas only when you turn on the hot
water
it will be hot as long as you wish. In a 3 1/2 bath house, when you have
your kids and grandkids visiting, you will ALWAYS have hot water. If you
deplete
a 50 gal tank heater, it's gone and you will have to wait until the entire
tank heats up, however long that takes - been there, done that, not
pleasant.
- I've also seen some posts about price. Find a reputable dealer and/or
plumber
and you can get one for about half of the prices I've seen posted -
installed!
Just do an Ebay search for N-069M. Although you do need to have a plumber
install the unit for warranty purposes, it really does not take rocket
science
to correctly size or install the unit. Just make sure you have the
properly
sized gas line supply as well.
I am very pleased with mine for over 6 months. I'll see how long it will
last,
but so far, I will install another one in the next house I build.
Again, just my 2 cents, no flames please. ...Bob
> My plans are to specify a (Gas) Tankless Hot Water Heater in our new home
> for my wife and myself. I'm thinking about actualy including two of them,
> one for bathrooms and one for Kitchen and Laundry demands but not sure on
> the total number to have yet.
>
> I've looked at Takagi, Rinnai, Noritz, Paloma, Bosch, and Rheem. Like
> everything else most familiarity with Tankless hot water heaters comes
> from
> advertisements on the radio and TV and of those Rinnai seems to put the
> most
> money in that area.
>
> Of you who have a tankless hot water heater which ones are the most
> trouble
> free and which would you recommend? Thanks, in advance, for your help and
> input.
>
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