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Taxes and construction jam6444 10-19-2006
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Posted by SteveF on October 20, 2006, 7:42 am

>
> Matt Barrow wrote:
>> > Kickstart wrote:
>> >> > If the subs are incorporated, you are under no obligation to 1099
>> >> > them.
>> >> > If they are not, then technically you should issue a 1099. Whether
>> >> > or
>> >> > not you inform them of this at the start of the project is up to
>> >> > you.
>> >
>> > There really isn't that much "official" paperwork. I always make a new
>> > sub fill out a simple "Subcontractor Profile" document I came up with.
>> > I want his name and dba, his address, his insurance carriers and most
>> > of all - his Social Security number. If you have a name, an address
>> > and a SS#, or better yet a Federal TaxPayer ID #, all you have to do
>> > at the end of the year is total how much you've paid him. If it's over
>> > $600. you are obligated to send him a 1099. Once those 1099s hit the
>> > mailbox I consider my part of it done - it's up to him from there on.
>> > The important thing is - get his information BEFORE you write him any
>> > checks. If you don't, he will probably give it to you anyway, but get
>> > it beforehand and you're in control of that part at least.
>>
>> This should all be listed and detailed in the contract for sub-contract
>> labor.
>
> Contract for sub-contract labor? I've been building houses for 32
> years - know how many "contracts for sub-contract labor" I've entered
> into? For framers, roofers, brickies, concrete finishers and misc
> others - maybe half a dozen. Around here, we hammer out a price and
> both write it down somewhere. It's done on a handshake. Like I said,
> if you're worried about 1099s, get his SS#.
>
> monz
>

If he/she is a sole proprietorship, get the SSN, otherwise you will be
getting a Federal Tax ID Number.

Steve.



Posted by Matt Barrow on October 20, 2006, 12:42 pm

>
> Matt Barrow wrote:
>> > Kickstart wrote:
>> >> > If the subs are incorporated, you are under no obligation to 1099
>> >> > them.
>> >> > If they are not, then technically you should issue a 1099. Whether
>> >> > or
>> >> > not you inform them of this at the start of the project is up to
>> >> > you.
>> >
>> > There really isn't that much "official" paperwork. I always make a new
>> > sub fill out a simple "Subcontractor Profile" document I came up with.
>> > I want his name and dba, his address, his insurance carriers and most
>> > of all - his Social Security number. If you have a name, an address
>> > and a SS#, or better yet a Federal TaxPayer ID #, all you have to do
>> > at the end of the year is total how much you've paid him. If it's over
>> > $600. you are obligated to send him a 1099. Once those 1099s hit the
>> > mailbox I consider my part of it done - it's up to him from there on.
>> > The important thing is - get his information BEFORE you write him any
>> > checks. If you don't, he will probably give it to you anyway, but get
>> > it beforehand and you're in control of that part at least.
>>
>> This should all be listed and detailed in the contract for sub-contract
>> labor.
>
> Contract for sub-contract labor?

Sorry...contract labor (jumped ahead of myself while editing my thoughts and
didn't return). Any sub-contract clause would make the contractor liable for
any wage issues.



Posted by Kickstart on October 20, 2006, 1:21 pm
> Sorry...contract labor (jumped ahead of myself while editing my thoughts
> and didn't return). Any sub-contract clause would make the contractor
> liable for any wage issues.
true AND in this case WHO is the contractor ???

kickstart



Posted by Matt Barrow on October 20, 2006, 2:27 pm

>> Sorry...contract labor (jumped ahead of myself while editing my thoughts
>> and didn't return). Any sub-contract clause would make the contractor
>> liable for any wage issues.
> true AND in this case WHO is the contractor ???

If they don't know that, they're setting themselves up for a beatin'.

(Small wonder there are so many threads with contractor issues for those who
approach the business so "willy-nilly".)




Posted by Fran Bragg on October 19, 2006, 10:38 pm

>> If the subs are incorporated, you are under no obligation to 1099 them.
>> If they are not, then technically you should issue a 1099. Whether or
>> not you inform them of this at the start of the project is up to you.
>>
>> Fran
>>
> how do you do that without the proper paperwork ?

Oh sorry. I made the mistake of assuming everyone does things the way we
do. We have a sub-contract agreement that requires a COI with certain
levels of coverage. We don't hire without Worker Comp. We also issue a
work order with a complete scope of work and whatever assumptions the sub
has going in. Anything changed by either party goes on a change order.

>> Maybe there's more to this contractor shit than you think

I'm still learning about all this contractor stuff. But basic business is
basic business.

Best,
Fran




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