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Vapor proofing concrete. Kevin 01-22-2008
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Posted by Kevin on January 22, 2008, 12:41 am
I am excavating in the crawlspace under my house to construct a couple of
new rooms. The construction involves installing retaining walls, which in
some locations will be adjacent to the existing perimiter foundation. These
retaining walls will be poured, directly against the excavated dirt face,
(with a double layer of 6mil visquene). While the area is generally very
dry, there is one side of the house where there is some moisture seepage
after heavy rains. I will be installing french drains, outside the exisitng
foundation, and under the heel of the new retaining wall.

I have been reading about products that can be added to the pour that
supposedly limit the capillaries that form in concrete as it cures.
There seems to be an abundance of these products, and of course their
liturature proclaims each of them to be the best. I would like to hear
from people... in particular concrete professionals, who have had experience
with these products, especially with recommendations as to which is the best.
My local concrete supplier recommends a product named Moxie, but this may
just be because there is a local Moxie supplier.

I'll appreciate any input is this regard.

TIA
Kevin.

Posted by DanG on January 22, 2008, 7:23 am
I just had a trade magazine telling about an east coast medical
facility using hydrophobic concrete with no external waterproofing
with 3 stories under ground. I will try to dig out the article.
They referenced only 2 types of additive.

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>I am excavating in the crawlspace under my house to construct a
>couple of
> new rooms. The construction involves installing retaining walls,
> which in
> some locations will be adjacent to the existing perimiter
> foundation. These
> retaining walls will be poured, directly against the excavated
> dirt face,
> (with a double layer of 6mil visquene). While the area is
> generally very
> dry, there is one side of the house where there is some moisture
> seepage
> after heavy rains. I will be installing french drains, outside
> the exisitng
> foundation, and under the heel of the new retaining wall.
>
> I have been reading about products that can be added to the pour
> that
> supposedly limit the capillaries that form in concrete as it
> cures.
> There seems to be an abundance of these products, and of course
> their
> liturature proclaims each of them to be the best. I would like
> to hear
> from people... in particular concrete professionals, who have
> had experience
> with these products, especially with recommendations as to which
> is the best.
> My local concrete supplier recommends a product named Moxie, but
> this may
> just be because there is a local Moxie supplier.
>
> I'll appreciate any input is this regard.
>
> TIA
> Kevin.



Posted by DanG on January 23, 2008, 7:08 am
I have always agreed with Robert's position, Perhaps that is why
I read through this article as hard as I did. It really surprised
me that a major project would take the chance(s) involved with
this project. I remember making the comment, "an awful lot of
eggs in a pretty thin basket."

December issue of Building Design + Construction by the Reed group
<http://www.bdcnetwork.com/toc-archive-bdc/2007/20071201.html>
Concrete That Fears Water No More

Boy, did I misremember the where. How about Seattle? University
of Washington School of Medicine.

They used Hycrete of New Jersey (maybe that's where I got the east
coast). They mention extra care required for water stop at
joints.

They reference Hycrete: http://www.hycrete.com/
This site has the text of the article, sorry no pictures.
http://www.hycrete.com/site/news/62.html

The other type and system mentioned is the Australian based
Cementaid's Everdure Caltite:
http://www.caltite.com/

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Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)
dgriff237@7cox.net



>I am excavating in the crawlspace under my house to construct a
>couple of
> new rooms. The construction involves installing retaining walls,
> which in
> some locations will be adjacent to the existing perimiter
> foundation. These
> retaining walls will be poured, directly against the excavated
> dirt face,
> (with a double layer of 6mil visquene). While the area is
> generally very
> dry, there is one side of the house where there is some moisture
> seepage
> after heavy rains. I will be installing french drains, outside
> the exisitng
> foundation, and under the heel of the new retaining wall.
>
> I have been reading about products that can be added to the pour
> that
> supposedly limit the capillaries that form in concrete as it
> cures.
> There seems to be an abundance of these products, and of course
> their
> liturature proclaims each of them to be the best. I would like
> to hear
> from people... in particular concrete professionals, who have
> had experience
> with these products, especially with recommendations as to which
> is the best.
> My local concrete supplier recommends a product named Moxie, but
> this may
> just be because there is a local Moxie supplier.
>
> I'll appreciate any input is this regard.
>
> TIA
> Kevin.



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