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What is progress payment? How are bids done? sabinblack 06-08-2007
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Posted by Matt Barrow on June 10, 2007, 1:16 pm

>
>> Hi,
>> I just started a business as a plumbing contractor and I was
>> wondering what the normal procedures on sending in a bid and signing
>> whatever needed contracts. Currently, I just looked over the plans
>> for the job site and I figured out how much it will cost for materials
>> and labor. Now that I have that done, what else needs to be done?
>> What is this whole concept of progress payment? I understand you get
>> paid for the work progress you make, but do I have to pay for the
>> material expenses up front?
>
> Not if you open an account with a materials supplier that offers good
> payment terms.
>
(i.e., 30-45 days same as cash)



Posted by RicodJour on June 10, 2007, 1:45 pm
wrote:
>
> 30-45 days same as cash

Parsing that another way:
30-45 days = cash
time = money

R



Posted by dpb on June 10, 2007, 3:10 pm
Matt Barrow wrote:
>>> Hi,
...

>>> ...but do I have to pay for the
>>> material expenses up front?
>> Not if you open an account with a materials supplier that offers good
>> payment terms.
>>
> (i.e., 30-45 days same as cash)

If he's just opening a new business, getting that kind of a credit line
is probably going to be tough initially unless he can back it w/ his
personal credit. Even that may be tough a a jobbers...

--

Posted by vMike on June 8, 2007, 6:35 pm

> Hi,
> I just started a business as a plumbing contractor and I was
> wondering what the normal procedures on sending in a bid and signing
> whatever needed contracts. Currently, I just looked over the plans
> for the job site and I figured out how much it will cost for materials
> and labor. Now that I have that done, what else needs to be done?
> What is this whole concept of progress payment? I understand you get
> paid for the work progress you make, but do I have to pay for the
> material expenses up front?
>
> The construction company that I'm working with is saying that I have
> to pay for all the materials up front (without getting any money from
> the construction company, either a deposit or funds for the
> materials). Before I entered into this business I assumed that I
> would get paid a deposit and the cost for materials once the materials
> arrive (this is even before I start doing physical work), and the
> progress payment is only pertinent to the amount of physical labor I
> put into it. Is the company trying to take advantage of me since I
> just started out in the business? What are the normal procedures?
>
> I checked online to see how it's done and I couldn't find that much
> information. I found some sample contracts (not about plumbing) and
> there were at least 3 stages to the deal.
>
> 1) Initial deposit
> 2) Cost for materials once the materials arrive (pipes, etc) + any
> damaged materials
> 3) Progress Payment for labor
> (then repeat 2 & 3 if it's a long job).
>
> Is this the normal procedure? If not, how can you protect yourself
> from the construction company from not paying you? I heard of horror
> stories from a friend that's also a plumber who put in $20,000 up
> front into the job (for materials alone, so basically the plumber is
> paying the construction company to work for them), and the contruction
> company never paid the plumber and just used the excuse that the
> company that hired the construction company is stalling their
> payments. In the end, the plumber had to file a lawsuit that can take
> up to 2 years to be settled.
>
> I thought that the construction company is in charge of paying their
> subcontractor whether or not the company that hired the construction
> company is paying them. Is that just an excuse that the construction
> company is using?
>
> Please help me clarify this because I really do not want to fall into
> the "horror" stories you hear about.
>
> So to summarize. Is this the normal procedure:
> 1) Plumber purchases all materials and works for 1 month
> 2) After the month is over, the plumber files in an invoice with the
> construction company
> 3) Then a month later, the construction company pays you for that
> invoice
>
> and the process is repeated?
>
> Thanks a lot. Your help is very much appreciated.
>
> ---Paul
>



Posted by vMike on June 8, 2007, 6:42 pm

> Hi,
> I just started a business as a plumbing contractor and I was
> wondering what the normal procedures on sending in a bid and signing
> whatever needed contracts. Currently, I just looked over the plans
> for the job site and I figured out how much it will cost for materials
> and labor. Now that I have that done, what else needs to be done?
> What is this whole concept of progress payment? I understand you get
> paid for the work progress you make, but do I have to pay for the
> material expenses up front?

Whoop forgot the text! I am speaking from the customer side. I just signed
a contract for the plumbing on a home. The deal is no money upfront. 30% at
rough in 40% at top out and the balance at completion. I am in Florida so
contractors can put a lien on your property if they are not paid, even if
payments are made through a GC the owner is still responsible if the GC does
not pay the sub. So if the owner pay the GC and the GC runs off with the
money the owner is screwed. So the rules here in Florida are the subs have
the rights not the owners, BUT you need capital to be a sub.
mike



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