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Posted by on June 14, 2009, 7:05 am
> On Jun 13, 9:21 am, "Dioclese" <NONE> wrote:
> > > "Dioclese" <NONE> wrote in message
m...
> > >>>> And there are now solar lamps that do emit
> > >>>> enough light to illuminate relatively large areas and/or throw lig=
ht
> > >>>> a
> > >>>> distance sufficient for a flag atop a pole.
> > >>> Well, illuminating a flag atop a pole is pretty far down my priorit=
y
> > >>> list. I might get to it one day, after I alphabetize my soup cans. =
But
> > >>> when I was browsing HD recently I checked out the lumen specs on so=
lar
> > >>> lights and they were just a shade less bright than a single briquet=
te
> > >>> of
> > >>> glowing charcoal. I don't remember seeing any that were more than 1=
0
> > >>> or
> > >>> 12 lumens, which would be enough to read 24 point type by if you ha=
d
> > >>> about 50 of them focused on one spot. Tell me more about these new
> > >>> ones
> > >>> that you've found. Source? Manufacturer? Lumen spec?
> > >> He didn't say how tall the flagpole was, or its corresponding sized
> > >> flag
> > >> either. That could be a factor regardless the lumens stated. All one=
s
> > >> for that purpose I've seen are using standard electrical power from =
a
> > >> meter loop of some sort. They also have a focusing shroud around suc=
h a
> > >> light. Said light is pointed at the top of the flagpole to cover all
> > >> directions the flag could furl. Guess if you're wearing a low-light
> > >> detection device, you could see such a flag illuminated by a
> > >> solar-powered light.
> > >> --
> > >> Dave
> > > Yoose need to think outside your pointy little heads. Solar lighting =
has
> > > come a long way since the last time yoose opened your moth eaten mise=
r
> > > purses. Harnessing solar power is the future, get used to it.
> > >http://www.solarlighting.com/
> > >http://www.solarlightstore.com/
> > Guess its a matter of perspective. 20 watts of light ain't much. Guess =
you
> > may be able to detect a flag atop a flagpole without low-light visual a=
ids
> > if you've been in the darkness for sometime. Depends how high the flagp=
ole
> > is too.
> >http://www.solarlightstore.com/solar-spot-lights/flood-lights/integra...
> > --
> > Dave
> http://www.solarlightstore.com/solar-spot-lights/flood-lights/8ledsol...
> Took a quick look at the biggest spotlight at the above store that one
> might think would be best suited to get a decent amount of light for a
> flag on top of a pole. =A0 Look a the specs: =A08 LEDS, 5 volts, plastic,
> 2lbs. =A0 =A0If you're trying to make a case for solar, that sure ain't
> the way to do it. =A0 Stating the light output, how long it will
> maintain the light, etc would be a good start.
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> What a skank... you picked out the least expensive lamps at the web site.=
..
> a set of 5 @ $70.. what do you expect for like $12 each, cast stainless
> steel with a 20 year guarantee... duh =A0I think for the price they're a =
great
> buy, better than low voltage sets, and if not abused by stepping on them =
or
> running a lawnmower over them will probably give many years of service.
> And you cannot judge illumination by wattage...
I never suggested judging illumination by wattage. I only pointed
out that they have NO SPEC of any kind for the light output for the
solar light I looked at. Should I waste my time looking at every
light there? If you have a great example of a solar light with
specs that can be used to light a flag at the top of a pole, I'm sure
we'd all like to see a direct link to it.
/.when I went to school I was
> taught that watts is a measure of energy consumed, not output... high
> wattage appliances typically consume most power to generate heat... there
> are actually idiots out there (many idiots) who buy kitchen mixing machin=
es
> by wattage... I guess they wanna use them as hair driers. =A0 The same lu=
mens
> can be focused or diffused. =A0I have various Mag-Lites that throw very
> intense light over great distance, powered by a couple AA cells... would
> definitely illuminate a flag atop a 20 ft pole, with a more efficient
> battery (such as is typical with solar lights) it would illuminate a flag
> all night =A0With solar lights (any lights), depending on use the lower
> wattage may very well be the better choice... I have recessed fluorescent
> fixtures in my kitchen that give tremendous illumination yet consume very
> little wattage. =A0Anyone who discounts solar lighting is truely a pinhea=
d...
> some 70 years ago the same kind of pinheads poopooed fluorescent lights. =
=A0Do
> yoose realize that the first automobiles used oil lamps as head lights, n=
ow
> they use high intensity lamps that are many times more efficient than tho=
se
> from just a few short years ago... believe it or not there are still many
> people (most of the world) who light their homes (when they do) exclusive=
ly
> with oil lamps and candles... they don't need any stinkin' new fangled
> 'lectricity. =A0Folks better start getting used to solar energy, it's the
> future. =A0The gas station has already been here more than twice as long =
as it
> will exist into the future... your great grandchildren will only know a g=
as
> station in a museum. =A0It really doesn't matter that there will shortly =
be no
> more US made automobiles, it was bound to happen, better sooner than late=
r,
> it's the best thing could have happened... need is the mother of inventio=
n.
> Again the US will be at the forefront. =A0The arabs are again proving tha=
t
> they are the inferior people, they have more sun than oil, yet what are t=
hey
> doing about it.
And now you engage in racism. That should go a long way to convince
people of your credibility and the merit of your arguments.
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