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Posted by brooklyn1 on June 14, 2009, 8:51 am
http://www.solar-flag-pole-lights.com/






Posted by Dioclese on June 15, 2009, 9:56 am

> http://www.solar-flag-pole-lights.com/

Yep, and here's some details that some people may be interested in regarding
that:
http://www.liberty-light.com/

See bottom of the page. I don't like their method of moving the light way
up the flagpole. To start out with, its ugly in appearance. Part of the
illumination is blocked by the flagpole itself. The usual method consists
of surface/ground mounted units to illuminate all areas the flag could
possibly furl. Double that distance and mount on the ground, you have 1/4
the illumination for the Liberty Light on the flag. You'll need more than
one Liberty Light for a stand-alone flag pole. The building side mounted
flagpole, one is enough.
They throw in the Lux factor for an idea of its illumination. Look here:
http://www.answers.com/topic/lux

I'm all for green. We need to use what's available including the sun. What
we get when we use a solar-powered product needs more research by the
consumer before a purchase. We also need uniformity of illumination
specifications, along with stating that as a comparison of what we know.
Like illumination compared to a certain wattage standard incandescent light
bulb when citing illumination of an LED.
--
Dave



Posted by Billy on June 14, 2009, 1:34 pm
In article
trader4@optonline.net wrote:

> > On Jun 13, 9:21 am, "Dioclese" <NONE> wrote:
> > > > "Dioclese" <NONE> wrote in message
> > > >>.
> > > >>>> And there are now solar lamps that do emit
> > > >>>> enough light to illuminate relatively large areas and/or throw light
> > > >>>> a
> > > >>>> distance sufficient for a flag atop a pole.
> > > >>> Well, illuminating a flag atop a pole is pretty far down my priority
> > > >>> list. I might get to it one day, after I alphabetize my soup cans.
> > > >>> But
> > > >>> when I was browsing HD recently I checked out the lumen specs on
> > > >>> solar
> > > >>> lights and they were just a shade less bright than a single briquette
> > > >>> of
> > > >>> glowing charcoal. I don't remember seeing any that were more than 10
> > > >>> or
> > > >>> 12 lumens, which would be enough to read 24 point type by if you had
> > > >>> about 50 of them focused on one spot. Tell me more about these new
> > > >>> ones
> > > >>> that you've found. Source? Manufacturer? Lumen spec?
> > > >> He didn't say how tall the flagpole was, or its corresponding sized
> > > >> flag
> > > >> either. That could be a factor regardless the lumens stated. All ones
> > > >> for that purpose I've seen are using standard electrical power from a
> > > >> meter loop of some sort. They also have a focusing shroud around such
> > > >> a
> > > >> light. Said light is pointed at the top of the flagpole to cover all
> > > >> directions the flag could furl. Guess if you're wearing a low-light
> > > >> detection device, you could see such a flag illuminated by a
> > > >> solar-powered light.
> > > >> --
> > > >> Dave
> > > > Yoose need to think outside your pointy little heads. Solar lighting
> > > > has
> > > > come a long way since the last time yoose opened your moth eaten miser
> > > > purses. Harnessing solar power is the future, get used to it.
> > > >http://www.solarlighting.com/
> > > >http://www.solarlightstore.com/
> > > Guess its a matter of perspective. 20 watts of light ain't much. Guess
> > > you
> > > may be able to detect a flag atop a flagpole without low-light visual
> > > aids
> > > if you've been in the darkness for sometime. Depends how high the
> > > flagpole
> > > is too.
> > >http://www.solarlightstore.com/solar-spot-lights/flood-lights/integra...
> > > --
> > > Dave
> > http://www.solarlightstore.com/solar-spot-lights/flood-lights/8ledsol...
> > Took a quick look at the biggest spotlight at the above store that one
> > might think would be best suited to get a decent amount of light for a
> > flag on top of a pole.   Look a the specs:  8 LEDS, 5 volts, plastic,
> > 2lbs.    If you're trying to make a case for solar, that sure ain't
> > the way to do it.   Stating the light output, how long it will
> > maintain the light, etc would be a good start.
> > ======
> > What a skank... you picked out the least expensive lamps at the web site...
> > a set of 5 @ $70.. what do you expect for like $12 each, cast stainless
> > steel with a 20 year guarantee... duh  I think for the price they're a
> > great
> > buy, better than low voltage sets, and if not abused by stepping on them or
> > running a lawnmower over them will probably give many years of service.
> > And you cannot judge illumination by wattage...
>
> I never suggested judging illumination by wattage. I only pointed
> out that they have NO SPEC of any kind for the light output for the
> solar light I looked at. Should I waste my time looking at every
> light there? If you have a great example of a solar light with
> specs that can be used to light a flag at the top of a pole, I'm sure
> we'd all like to see a direct link to it.
>
>
>
>
>
> /.when I went to school I was
> > taught that watts is a measure of energy consumed, not output... high
> > wattage appliances typically consume most power to generate heat... there
> > are actually idiots out there (many idiots) who buy kitchen mixing machines
> > by wattage... I guess they wanna use them as hair driers.   The same lumens
> > can be focused or diffused.  I have various Mag-Lites that throw very
> > intense light over great distance, powered by a couple AA cells... would
> > definitely illuminate a flag atop a 20 ft pole, with a more efficient
> > battery (such as is typical with solar lights) it would illuminate a flag
> > all night  With solar lights (any lights), depending on use the lower
> > wattage may very well be the better choice... I have recessed fluorescent
> > fixtures in my kitchen that give tremendous illumination yet consume very
> > little wattage.  Anyone who discounts solar lighting is truely a pinhead...
> > some 70 years ago the same kind of pinheads poopooed fluorescent lights.
> >  Do
> > yoose realize that the first automobiles used oil lamps as head lights, now
> > they use high intensity lamps that are many times more efficient than those
> > from just a few short years ago... believe it or not there are still many
> > people (most of the world) who light their homes (when they do) exclusively
> > with oil lamps and candles... they don't need any stinkin' new fangled
> > 'lectricity.  Folks better start getting used to solar energy, it's the
> > future.  The gas station has already been here more than twice as long as
> > it
> > will exist into the future... your great grandchildren will only know a gas
> > station in a museum.  It really doesn't matter that there will shortly be
> > no
> > more US made automobiles, it was bound to happen, better sooner than later,
> > it's the best thing could have happened... need is the mother of invention.
> > Again the US will be at the forefront.  The arabs are again proving that
> > they are the inferior people, they have more sun than oil, yet what are
> > they
> > doing about it.
>
> And now you engage in racism. That should go a long way to convince
> people of your credibility and the merit of your arguments.

Be happy that your name isn't Christian.

Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: I would like some feedback..
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:51:22 -0700 (PDT)

Christian wrote:
> I own a business "Professional Pond Maintenance and Fish Care".

That's your first untruth... you *operate* a business.... you don't
own a business until your IRS return doesn't show you're operating at
a loss.

> I'm not here to promote my business.

That's your second untruth.

> I'm wanting to get any and all feedback, positive or negative,
> on a website I designed recently to go with it. I advertise locally
> and direct folks to my site for more information.
> Here is the link:http://allyoudoisfeedthefish.net/index.html
> What do you think of the basic design?
> Can you read it easily?
> Ads or no ads?
> I'm thinking people here are close to my target audience, being that
> garden lovers usually like ponds even if they don't personally have
> one.
> Thank You,
> Christian

Your parents must have had high hopes for you to succeed in the
arts... you're not going to do well in business unless you change your
name.
-----

As you see, Shelly has always been narcissistic, pompous, wrong, and
denigrating of others. Good luck in your conversations with him.
--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Zunx_goz4


http://www.democracynow.org/2009/6/2/israeli_journalist_amira_hass_on_the


Posted by Smitty Two on June 13, 2009, 12:27 pm

> Yoose need to think outside your pointy little heads. Solar lighting has
> come a long way since the last time yoose opened your moth eaten miser
> purses. Harnessing solar power is the future, get used to it.
>
> http://www.solarlighting.com/
>
> http://www.solarlightstore.com/

Well, your first link is to commercial solar. We were talking about
homeowner landscape lighting.

As to the second link, please select from that website, one
self-contained solar-powered landscape light that lists lumen specs, so
I don't have to go wading through the whole site to see what your point
is.

Posted by brooklyn1 on June 13, 2009, 3:54 pm

>> Yoose need to think outside your pointy little heads. Solar lighting has
>> come a long way since the last time yoose opened your moth eaten miser
>> purses. Harnessing solar power is the future, get used to it.
>> http://www.solarlighting.com/
>> http://www.solarlightstore.com/
> Well, your first link is to commercial solar. We were talking about
> homeowner landscape lighting.
> As to the second link, please select from that website, one
> self-contained solar-powered landscape light that lists lumen specs, so
> I don't have to go wading through the whole site to see what your point
> is.

Does your mommy still hafta wipe your tushy... if it's so important to you
there's an 800 number or send email. Lumens aren't very important with
outdoor lighting... typical indoor lighting reflects off the walls,ceiling,
floors, and furnishings back into the room... outdoor lighting travels to
infinity... type of source/light and how it's concentrated is what's
important... that's why there are floodlights, spot lights, etc.





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