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Why do manufacturers make ridiculous claims? RicodJour 06-18-2007
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Posted by RicodJour on June 18, 2007, 12:28 am
I mean, really ridiculous. It's insulting. Case in point:
http://www.grassypavers.com/

They'll support 97,000 PSF?! Most interesting - particularly in light
of the fact that the IRC allows a prescriptive soil bearing capacity
of 12,000 PSF for crystalline bedrock.

R


Posted by hawgeye on June 18, 2007, 12:46 am
"RicodJour" wrote...
>I mean, really ridiculous. It's insulting. Case in point:
> http://www.grassypavers.com/

Well there is a succer born every minute, or so I've heard.

>
> They'll support 97,000 PSF?! Most interesting - particularly in light
> of the fact that the IRC allows a prescriptive soil bearing capacity
> of 12,000 PSF for crystalline bedrock.

What's worse is that they contradict themselves on their advantages page by
saying: "System supports more than 84,000 lbs. per square foot unfilled,
and more than
164,000 lbs. per square foot filled."


--
hawgeye ©



Posted by Don on June 18, 2007, 7:18 am

>I mean, really ridiculous. It's insulting. Case in point:
> http://www.grassypavers.com/
>
> They'll support 97,000 PSF?! Most interesting - particularly in light
> of the fact that the IRC allows a prescriptive soil bearing capacity
> of 12,000 PSF for crystalline bedrock.

Because they can?
The plastic itself, when supported properly, can probably hold 97k lbs, but
like you said, the soil below can't.
The whole thing will sink into the ground.
Its a meaningless fact meant to convince potential customers.
I consider that sort of thing fraud, or in todays legaleze, attempted fraud.
A good horsewhipping and then encapturement in stocks on the public square
for 5 days will cure that problem and deter others contemplating such
behavior.
...and the website should be shut down for 5 years.



Posted by cvmikeray on June 4, 2008, 7:11 am
cvmikeray had written this in response to
http://www.thestuccocompany.com/construction/Re-Why-do-manufacturers-make-ridiculous-claims-9374-.htm
:

Hello,

The test data we post on the web site is from the Mississippi Polymer
Institute and the research paper can be downloaded there for review.

http://www.grassypavers.com/specs.htm

This load data shows the compression strength based on standard tests for
this type of material. Any major installation should consult proper
Engineering standards.

Please feel free to download the data or give us a call if you would like
to speak on this subject one on one.

Thanks for considering our products.

Mike Ray - Product Distributor and owner of the website
http:www.grassypavers.com (205)999-1744


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Don wrote:


>>I mean, really ridiculous. It's insulting. Case in point:
>> http://www.grassypavers.com/
>>
>> They'll support 97,000 PSF?! Most interesting - particularly in
>> light
>> of the fact that the IRC allows a prescriptive soil bearing
>> capacity
>> of 12,000 PSF for crystalline bedrock.

> Because they can?
> The plastic itself, when supported properly, can probably hold 97k lbs,
> but
> like you said, the soil below can't.
> The whole thing will sink into the ground.
> Its a meaningless fact meant to convince potential customers.
> I consider that sort of thing fraud, or in todays legaleze, attempted
> fraud.
> A good horsewhipping and then encapturement in stocks on the public
> square
> for 5 days will cure that problem and deter others contemplating such
> behavior.
> ...and the website should be shut down for 5 years.







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Posted by TVeblen on June 18, 2007, 7:35 am

>I mean, really ridiculous. It's insulting. Case in point:
> http://www.grassypavers.com/
>
> They'll support 97,000 PSF?! Most interesting - particularly in light
> of the fact that the IRC allows a prescriptive soil bearing capacity
> of 12,000 PSF for crystalline bedrock.
>
That is what I've always refered to as "fun with math". Like in statistics,
you can take any set of quanitative data and by cherry picking the scale you
can greatly exaggerate the results.



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