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Will Thompson's Water Seal protect OSB during framing or make it worse? john 10-19-2006
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Posted by on October 19, 2006, 12:59 pm
My builder sayd he applies Thompson's Water Seal to the floor decks in
case there is rain prior to roofing. Does that help? It occurred to
me it might make it worse. If he applies it to the walking surface,
water could shed off the surface and into the cracks where it soaks
into the sides of the OSB boards. Once in the sides, the boards may
not dry out properly if the Thompson's product actually holds the water
*IN* as well as out. What do you think? Or am I just being a worry
wart?

Also, I have free access to axial air movers (fans) and portable
dehumidifiers used in the water damage restoration industry. Would it
help to run those after the roof is up? As for the dehumidifiers, they
would not help until the roof, windows, doors, and siding are up. A
guy told me it would do no good because, this time of year, the fans
would just be blowing damp air over a damp surface, but it seems to
work in the restoration industry, so why not?

- John


Posted by Robert Allison on October 19, 2006, 1:39 pm
john@vieth.info wrote:

> My builder sayd he applies Thompson's Water Seal to the floor decks in
> case there is rain prior to roofing. Does that help? It occurred to
> me it might make it worse. If he applies it to the walking surface,
> water could shed off the surface and into the cracks where it soaks
> into the sides of the OSB boards. Once in the sides, the boards may
> not dry out properly if the Thompson's product actually holds the water
> *IN* as well as out. What do you think? Or am I just being a worry
> wart?
>
> Also, I have free access to axial air movers (fans) and portable
> dehumidifiers used in the water damage restoration industry. Would it
> help to run those after the roof is up? As for the dehumidifiers, they
> would not help until the roof, windows, doors, and siding are up. A
> guy told me it would do no good because, this time of year, the fans
> would just be blowing damp air over a damp surface, but it seems to
> work in the restoration industry, so why not?
>
> - John
>

The thompsons may help to protect the OSB a bit, and I don't
think that it will hurt the drying out process. As far as the
cracks, alot of the thompsons will get into the cracks in the
process of application. It has about the consistency of
water, so whereever water will go, it will too. OSB is pretty
resistant to everything but standing water, and I am sure that
you did not allow that to happen. I wouldn't worry about it.
It rains on construction all the time.

Wait til everything is dried in, then keep a close eye on it.
I think that you will be pleasantly surprised to see that
everything is fine.

--
Robert Allison        
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX

Posted by dpb on October 19, 2006, 1:47 pm

john@vieth.info wrote:
> My builder sayd he applies Thompson's Water Seal to the floor decks in
> case there is rain prior to roofing. Does that help? It occurred to
> me it might make it worse. If he applies it to the walking surface,
> water could shed off the surface and into the cracks where it soaks
> into the sides of the OSB boards. Once in the sides, the boards may
> not dry out properly if the Thompson's product actually holds the water
> *IN* as well as out. What do you think? Or am I just being a worry
> wart?
>
> Also, I have free access to axial air movers (fans) and portable
> dehumidifiers used in the water damage restoration industry. Would it
> help to run those after the roof is up? As for the dehumidifiers, they
> would not help until the roof, windows, doors, and siding are up. A
> guy told me it would do no good because, this time of year, the fans
> would just be blowing damp air over a damp surface, but it seems to
> work in the restoration industry, so why not?

Yes, you're being a worry wart! :) Yes, if it rains before it's
covered, water _will_ get in the joints between underlayment (and
everywhere else, as well) -- it's just a hazard of construction. The
Thompson's will, overall, probably help some as it will tend to help
runoff and surface absorption (and there's a whole lot more exposed
surface than edges). It isn't a real impervious sealant, but mostly
works as a "anti-surfactant" to promote beading and runoff/shedding.
Water will evaporate back out, perhaps slightly slower than without it,
but you almost certainly will have quite a bit less to get out than if
wasn't sealed first. The most useful thing one can do is to sweep all
standing water off as soon as possible after the rain to get the drying
process started asap.

As for fans, they will help speed up the proces at least some even if
the humidity is relatively high because they move the air and promote
evaporation. Unless it has been thoroughly soaked and you're not
having any warm, sunny days, however, I don't think I'd be overly
concerned about it until after it is enclosed, then you do want to try
to dry it out so that by the time the rest of the framing and interior
work is done it is thoroughly dry before flooring.

In general, though, this isn't the only house that has been open w/
rains and that's been true for "since forever" and you can't tell which
ones of all the houses around are the ones that were/weren't can you?
I'd only get concerned if this is going on for months or cold weather
sets in w/ frozen precip in place you can't get rid of and aren't going
to be able to do so for quite some time kind of scenarios, not just a
rainy day (or even week).


Posted by on October 19, 2006, 2:41 pm
Thanks fellas! I figured I was just being a nervous Nelly.

> In general, though, this isn't the only house that has been open w/
> rains and that's been true for "since forever" and you can't tell which
> ones of all the houses around are the ones that were/weren't can you?

Ah! Good point. A little bit of logic always helps. If raining on a
construction was so bad, I would have (1) heard about horror stories in
the past and (2) heard anecdotes about certain houses. "Oh, yeah,
that's Old Man Jone's place! Yeah, that's a shame! Cost half a mil to
build, and now his floors are like roller coasters because it rained
before he could get his roof on." Nope. Never heard a story like
that. I think I'm safe. :-)

- John

dpb wrote:
> john@vieth.info wrote:
> > My builder sayd he applies Thompson's Water Seal to the floor decks in
> > case there is rain prior to roofing. Does that help? It occurred to
> > me it might make it worse. If he applies it to the walking surface,
> > water could shed off the surface and into the cracks where it soaks
> > into the sides of the OSB boards. Once in the sides, the boards may
> > not dry out properly if the Thompson's product actually holds the water
> > *IN* as well as out. What do you think? Or am I just being a worry
> > wart?
> >
> > Also, I have free access to axial air movers (fans) and portable
> > dehumidifiers used in the water damage restoration industry. Would it
> > help to run those after the roof is up? As for the dehumidifiers, they
> > would not help until the roof, windows, doors, and siding are up. A
> > guy told me it would do no good because, this time of year, the fans
> > would just be blowing damp air over a damp surface, but it seems to
> > work in the restoration industry, so why not?
>
> Yes, you're being a worry wart! :) Yes, if it rains before it's
> covered, water _will_ get in the joints between underlayment (and
> everywhere else, as well) -- it's just a hazard of construction. The
> Thompson's will, overall, probably help some as it will tend to help
> runoff and surface absorption (and there's a whole lot more exposed
> surface than edges). It isn't a real impervious sealant, but mostly
> works as a "anti-surfactant" to promote beading and runoff/shedding.
> Water will evaporate back out, perhaps slightly slower than without it,
> but you almost certainly will have quite a bit less to get out than if
> wasn't sealed first. The most useful thing one can do is to sweep all
> standing water off as soon as possible after the rain to get the drying
> process started asap.
>
> As for fans, they will help speed up the proces at least some even if
> the humidity is relatively high because they move the air and promote
> evaporation. Unless it has been thoroughly soaked and you're not
> having any warm, sunny days, however, I don't think I'd be overly
> concerned about it until after it is enclosed, then you do want to try
> to dry it out so that by the time the rest of the framing and interior
> work is done it is thoroughly dry before flooring.
>
> In general, though, this isn't the only house that has been open w/
> rains and that's been true for "since forever" and you can't tell which
> ones of all the houses around are the ones that were/weren't can you?
> I'd only get concerned if this is going on for months or cold weather
> sets in w/ frozen precip in place you can't get rid of and aren't going
> to be able to do so for quite some time kind of scenarios, not just a
> rainy day (or even week).


Posted by Pat on October 19, 2006, 2:52 pm

john@vieth.info wrote:
> Thanks fellas! I figured I was just being a nervous Nelly.
>
> > In general, though, this isn't the only house that has been open w/
> > rains and that's been true for "since forever" and you can't tell which
> > ones of all the houses around are the ones that were/weren't can you?
>
> Ah! Good point. A little bit of logic always helps. If raining on a
> construction was so bad, I would have (1) heard about horror stories in
> the past and (2) heard anecdotes about certain houses. "Oh, yeah,
> that's Old Man Jone's place! Yeah, that's a shame! Cost half a mil to
> build, and now his floors are like roller coasters because it rained
> before he could get his roof on." Nope. Never heard a story like
> that. I think I'm safe. :-)
>
> - John

I heard it causes an attack of ladybugs.

>
> dpb wrote:
> > john@vieth.info wrote:
> > > My builder sayd he applies Thompson's Water Seal to the floor decks in
> > > case there is rain prior to roofing. Does that help? It occurred to
> > > me it might make it worse. If he applies it to the walking surface,
> > > water could shed off the surface and into the cracks where it soaks
> > > into the sides of the OSB boards. Once in the sides, the boards may
> > > not dry out properly if the Thompson's product actually holds the water
> > > *IN* as well as out. What do you think? Or am I just being a worry
> > > wart?
> > >
> > > Also, I have free access to axial air movers (fans) and portable
> > > dehumidifiers used in the water damage restoration industry. Would it
> > > help to run those after the roof is up? As for the dehumidifiers, they
> > > would not help until the roof, windows, doors, and siding are up. A
> > > guy told me it would do no good because, this time of year, the fans
> > > would just be blowing damp air over a damp surface, but it seems to
> > > work in the restoration industry, so why not?
> >
> > Yes, you're being a worry wart! :) Yes, if it rains before it's
> > covered, water _will_ get in the joints between underlayment (and
> > everywhere else, as well) -- it's just a hazard of construction. The
> > Thompson's will, overall, probably help some as it will tend to help
> > runoff and surface absorption (and there's a whole lot more exposed
> > surface than edges). It isn't a real impervious sealant, but mostly
> > works as a "anti-surfactant" to promote beading and runoff/shedding.
> > Water will evaporate back out, perhaps slightly slower than without it,
> > but you almost certainly will have quite a bit less to get out than if
> > wasn't sealed first. The most useful thing one can do is to sweep all
> > standing water off as soon as possible after the rain to get the drying
> > process started asap.
> >
> > As for fans, they will help speed up the proces at least some even if
> > the humidity is relatively high because they move the air and promote
> > evaporation. Unless it has been thoroughly soaked and you're not
> > having any warm, sunny days, however, I don't think I'd be overly
> > concerned about it until after it is enclosed, then you do want to try
> > to dry it out so that by the time the rest of the framing and interior
> > work is done it is thoroughly dry before flooring.
> >
> > In general, though, this isn't the only house that has been open w/
> > rains and that's been true for "since forever" and you can't tell which
> > ones of all the houses around are the ones that were/weren't can you?
> > I'd only get concerned if this is going on for months or cold weather
> > sets in w/ frozen precip in place you can't get rid of and aren't going
> > to be able to do so for quite some time kind of scenarios, not just a
> > rainy day (or even week).


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