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between sheetrock and a hard place M 05-27-2007
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Posted by M on May 27, 2007, 6:40 pm
Hi all,
I am building a log sided home (stick built). On the interior I am using
matched pine so as to give the inside a log look. I am in a kind of weird
situation with some firecode sheetrock, a window header, and matched pine.
The problem is that I had put up firecode sheet rock for a wood stove right
near a window. I now realize that when I want to join the match pine atop
the window at the header and meet the sheet rock I have nothing to fasten
the matched pine to. See picture.

http://www.geocities.com/guitarage41/matchpine_firecode_sr_windowheader.JPG

Can I put a piece of blocking on the left side of the header so I can nail
the pine to it? I am at the extreme limit for the sheetrock as far as fire
code goes. I know the headers for windows have to be the way they are.. but
to me this seems like I need to have an exception. I could take about a 3/4
of an inch of sheet rock away but it will look funky.



Posted by benick on May 27, 2007, 7:24 pm

> Hi all,
> I am building a log sided home (stick built). On the interior I am
> using matched pine so as to give the inside a log look. I am in a kind of
> weird situation with some firecode sheetrock, a window header, and matched
> pine. The problem is that I had put up firecode sheet rock for a wood
> stove right near a window. I now realize that when I want to join the
> match pine atop the window at the header and meet the sheet rock I have
> nothing to fasten the matched pine to. See picture.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/guitarage41/matchpine_firecode_sr_windowheader.JPG
>
> Can I put a piece of blocking on the left side of the header so I can nail
> the pine to it? I am at the extreme limit for the sheetrock as far as
> fire code goes. I know the headers for windows have to be the way they
> are.. but to me this seems like I need to have an exception. I could take
> about a 3/4 of an inch of sheet rock away but it will look funky.
You could put L Bead or J Bead on the edges of the sheetrock and butt pine
to that. Should have used more sheetrock to allow a better less visible
transition away from the window or perhaps do the whole wall in sheetrock
then put pine over the sheetrock leaving sheetrock exposed where the fire
code requires it.
>



Posted by DanG on May 27, 2007, 8:50 pm
I guess I'm lost.

Are you just wanting a way to nail the pine at the left side of
the window head? Most headers, or at least - headers used to be,
are made of solid dimension lumber, not I joists. Certainly you
can add whatever filler in the header web that you desire. It is
often required at the bearing ends of I joists.

You have some bigger issues coming IMHO. How are you planning to
deal with window trim? Are you going to have anything on top of
the drywall? Are you planning anything at the chimney (straighten
it up, hide it) ? Are you planning butt joints in vertical line
at window edges? What are you doing for ceiling?

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______________________________
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)
dgriff237@7cox.net



> Hi all,
> I am building a log sided home (stick built). On the interior
> I am using matched pine so as to give the inside a log look. I
> am in a kind of weird situation with some firecode sheetrock, a
> window header, and matched pine. The problem is that I had put
> up firecode sheet rock for a wood stove right near a window. I
> now realize that when I want to join the match pine atop the
> window at the header and meet the sheet rock I have nothing to
> fasten the matched pine to. See picture.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/guitarage41/matchpine_firecode_sr_windowheader.JPG
>
> Can I put a piece of blocking on the left side of the header so
> I can nail the pine to it? I am at the extreme limit for the
> sheetrock as far as fire code goes. I know the headers for
> windows have to be the way they are.. but to me this seems like
> I need to have an exception. I could take about a 3/4 of an
> inch of sheet rock away but it will look funky.
>



Posted by M on May 27, 2007, 9:59 pm

>I guess I'm lost.
>
> Are you just wanting a way to nail the pine at the left side of the window
> head? Most headers, or at least - headers used to be, are made of solid
> dimension lumber, not I joists. Certainly you can add whatever filler in
> the header web that you desire. It is often required at the bearing ends
> of I joists.
>
> You have some bigger issues coming IMHO. How are you planning to deal
> with window trim?

very thin trim...lol

Are you going to have anything on top of
> the drywall?

yes I plan to cover the loft opening above. Continue with more pine


Are you planning anything at the chimney (straighten
> it up, hide it) ?

no staightening... it is a rustic look...

Are you planning butt joints in vertical line
> at window edges?

I guess that is what I might do but I am toying with a thin trim on left
side of window continuing up. I thought about making the sheet rock look
like a chimney.


What are you doing for ceiling?


cathedral ceilings

>
> --
> ______________________________
> Keep the whole world singing . . . .
> DanG (remove the sevens)
> dgriff237@7cox.net
>
>
>
>> Hi all,
>> I am building a log sided home (stick built). On the interior I am
>> using matched pine so as to give the inside a log look. I am in a kind
>> of weird situation with some firecode sheetrock, a window header, and
>> matched pine. The problem is that I had put up firecode sheet rock for a
>> wood stove right near a window. I now realize that when I want to join
>> the match pine atop the window at the header and meet the sheet rock I
>> have nothing to fasten the matched pine to. See picture.
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/guitarage41/matchpine_firecode_sr_windowheader.JPG
>>
>> Can I put a piece of blocking on the left side of the header so I can
>> nail the pine to it? I am at the extreme limit for the sheetrock as far
>> as fire code goes. I know the headers for windows have to be the way
>> they are.. but to me this seems like I need to have an exception. I
>> could take about a 3/4 of an inch of sheet rock away but it will look
>> funky.
>>
>
>



Posted by PeterD on May 28, 2007, 11:07 am
On Sun, 27 May 2007 21:59:27 -0400, "M"


>
>Are you planning anything at the chimney (straighten
>> it up, hide it) ?
>
>no staightening... it is a rustic look...
>

IMHO that's not rustic, it's sloppy construction. It may look 'rustic'
today, but in six months you'll look at it and say "Why did I do
that?" And in two years, you'll rip it out, saying over and over
"Should have done it right the first time". <g>

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