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block wall to reduce outdoor noise scott 10-22-2006
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Posted by on October 22, 2006, 7:43 pm
Hello,

I have a relative that has a house next to a neighbor who is running an
in-home daycare. Generally the children reside outdoors unsupervised and
scream for most hours of the day. The neighbor is directly adjacent to my
relative.

Being in the backyard is very unpleasant, and even indoors with all of the
doors and windows closed, the noise is clearly audible and a nuisance. He
has quality construction with double-paned windows.

It's come down to either having to sell the house (which is truely
unfortuante, as it may incur not only risk of financial loss, but it was a
really ideal house), or finding some way to mitigate the noise level.

I've suggested constructing a block wall, a minimum of 6 feet tall (8 feet
would be ideal) and 60 feet long. Right now, the properties are seperated
by a rickety old wood fence, that has large cracks between the boards,
that I'm sure offers zero noise dampening.

So, my question is, what effect would the block wall have? I'm looking for
something that would reduce the indoor noise to something that is barely
perceptible, as well as reduce the outdoor noise by about half. Will a
block wall do this?

I don't want him to have to sink the cost of the block wall into the
property and then still have to sell it, with the block wall adding an
even greater financial risk to the sale.

Thank you for your opinions!

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Posted by M on October 22, 2006, 8:22 pm
if they are unsupervised kids in a true day care situation call the
authorities.



Posted by SteveF on October 22, 2006, 8:40 pm

> Hello,
>
> I have a relative that has a house next to a neighbor who is running an
> in-home daycare. Generally the children reside outdoors unsupervised and
> scream for most hours of the day. The neighbor is directly adjacent to my
> relative.
>
> Being in the backyard is very unpleasant, and even indoors with all of the
> doors and windows closed, the noise is clearly audible and a nuisance. He
> has quality construction with double-paned windows.
>
> It's come down to either having to sell the house (which is truely
> unfortuante, as it may incur not only risk of financial loss, but it was a
> really ideal house), or finding some way to mitigate the noise level.
>
> I've suggested constructing a block wall, a minimum of 6 feet tall (8 feet
> would be ideal) and 60 feet long. Right now, the properties are seperated
> by a rickety old wood fence, that has large cracks between the boards,
> that I'm sure offers zero noise dampening.
>
> So, my question is, what effect would the block wall have? I'm looking for
> something that would reduce the indoor noise to something that is barely
> perceptible, as well as reduce the outdoor noise by about half. Will a
> block wall do this?
>
> I don't want him to have to sink the cost of the block wall into the
> property and then still have to sell it, with the block wall adding an
> even greater financial risk to the sale.
>
> Thank you for your opinions!
>

As someone who just finished moving way the heck out in the country because
of a subdivision that popped up in my former back yard I can relate.

First off, I'd have your relative check to see if it is legal for their
neighbor to operate an in-home daycare on the property. If not covered by
a county or town ordinance they might be in violation of subdivision
covenants and restrictions. In the yuppie-land where my brother lives you
can't park your boat or inoperable cars in the driveway nor can you operate
a business of any kind.

The block wall will help but no idea if enough to make it worth doing (and I
kinda' expect not). For a few hundred dollars it might be possible to hire
a consulting engineer to come out and take a look before spending a bunch on
a wall. Folks who specialize in sound control work for every state's Dept
of Transportation. If near a larger airport, they all do sound studies so
you could call and ask who did theirs. I've gotten useful information just
by calling our state's engineering college and talking to some of the
professors for a few minutes.

Good luck.
Steve.

Steve.





Posted by on October 23, 2006, 2:15 am
> First off, I'd have your relative check to see if it is legal for their
> neighbor to operate an in-home daycare on the property. If not covered
by

We checked and local regulations permit an unlicensed daycare to have
three children, plus their own family members. They have three children of
their own and are watching four others (for a total of 7). That's one over
the limit, so technically we could submit some form of complaint, but it
seems a trivial enough difference that it would serve to create more
enmity between us and the neighbors than it would actually solve any
problems.

I too am a bit skeptical of how much difference a block wall will make. I
was hoping someone had some personal experience. I've heard that it could
achieve as much as a 10 dB drop, which would probably be enough, but that
is probably under ideal conditions.

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Posted by PPS on October 30, 2006, 5:51 pm
I would start with the path of least costs, informing the authorities. While
having one over may seem trivial to you, it is a violation of their license,
and it's entirely possible that they could be forced to close their daycare
(it violates fire codes). At the very least it will reduce the noise by one,
and put the neighbors on call that the need to take care in the overall
noise problem. Who cares if it causes "enmity between us and the neighbors"?
They certainly don't give a damn about you, after all, your considering
moving or building a wall to rectify the problem.



>> First off, I'd have your relative check to see if it is legal for their
>> neighbor to operate an in-home daycare on the property. If not covered
> by
>
> We checked and local regulations permit an unlicensed daycare to have
> three children, plus their own family members. They have three children of
> their own and are watching four others (for a total of 7). That's one over
> the limit, so technically we could submit some form of complaint, but it
> seems a trivial enough difference that it would serve to create more
> enmity between us and the neighbors than it would actually solve any
> problems.
>
> I too am a bit skeptical of how much difference a block wall will make. I
> was hoping someone had some personal experience. I've heard that it could
> achieve as much as a 10 dB drop, which would probably be enough, but that
> is probably under ideal conditions.
>
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