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breezeway collar ties M 11-24-2006
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Posted by M on November 24, 2006, 6:13 pm
I have a question. I put an addition on my "camp".... they are connected by
an 8'x10' breezeway. the camp was built with an overhangs using 2x8 roof
rafters 16" on center. The addition which is larger than the camp which
also has overhangs but they used roof trusses made of 2x4's 24" on center.
We were able to blend the two houses together by having the breezeway do the
transition of 16" on center on one side and 24" on center on the other side
so that the overhangs looked the same on each side. The two houses are
staggered. so that the roof of the breezeway is continuous on each side.
The breezeway is the problem .... I want to have the breezeway with a
cathedral ceiling and was wondering if I can get away without the collar
ties? I am doing the interior with 4 1/2" vee match pine. If I need collar
ties then I guess I would have to block the 24" on center and make the
collar ties 16" on center or visa versa. The camp portion is cathedral 16"
on center but the new section will be a conventional ceiling other than the
pine. Again the question is I want to have the breezeway with a cathedral
ceiling and was wondering if I can get away without the collar ties? It is
8'x10' 6-10 pitch



Posted by M on November 24, 2006, 8:51 pm

>I have a question. I put an addition on my "camp".... they are connected
>by an 8'x10' breezeway. the camp was built with an overhangs using 2x8
>roof rafters 16" on center. The addition which is larger than the camp
>which also has overhangs but they used roof trusses made of 2x4's 24" on
>center. We were able to blend the two houses together by having the
>breezeway do the transition of 16" on center on one side and 24" on center
>on the other side so that the overhangs looked the same on each side. The
>two houses are staggered. so that the roof of the breezeway is continuous
>on each side. The breezeway is the problem .... I want to have the
>breezeway with a cathedral ceiling and was wondering if I can get away
>without the collar ties? I am doing the interior with 4 1/2" vee match
>pine. If I need collar ties then I guess I would have to block the 24" on
>center and make the collar ties 16" on center or visa versa. The camp
>portion is cathedral 16" on center but the new section will be a
>conventional ceiling other than the pine. Again the question is I want to
>have the breezeway with a cathedral ceiling and was wondering if I can get
>away without the collar ties? It is 8'x10' 6-10 pitch


oop.... one more bit of data... the two houses are joined together on the
gable ends in a staggered fashion



Posted by M on November 24, 2006, 8:52 pm

>
>>I have a question. I put an addition on my "camp".... they are connected
>>by an 8'x10' breezeway. the camp was built with an overhangs using 2x8
>>roof rafters 16" on center. The addition which is larger than the camp
>>which also has overhangs but they used roof trusses made of 2x4's 24" on
>>center. We were able to blend the two houses together by having the
>>breezeway do the transition of 16" on center on one side and 24" on center
>>on the other side so that the overhangs looked the same on each side. The
>>two houses are staggered. so that the roof of the breezeway is continuous
>>on each side. The breezeway is the problem .... I want to have the
>>breezeway with a cathedral ceiling and was wondering if I can get away
>>without the collar ties? I am doing the interior with 4 1/2" vee match
>>pine. If I need collar ties then I guess I would have to block the 24" on
>>center and make the collar ties 16" on center or visa versa. The camp
>>portion is cathedral 16" on center but the new section will be a
>>conventional ceiling other than the pine. Again the question is I want to
>>have the breezeway with a cathedral ceiling and was wondering if I can get
>>away without the collar ties? It is 8'x10' 6-10 pitch
>
>

oop #2
the two houses are joined together on the
gable ends in a staggered fashion ... with the breezeway as the connector




Posted by RicodJour on November 25, 2006, 12:06 am
>
> Again the question is I want to have the breezeway with a cathedral
> ceiling and was wondering if I can get away without the collar ties? It is
> 8'x10' 6-10 pitch

You need to have either a structural ridge supporting the upper ends of
the rafters or you need to have something tying the rafters together to
resist the outward thrust of the rafters. Normally that is done by
collar ties or ceiling joists. In your case since you want a cathedral
ceiling you could tie the rafters together with some all thread and
turnbuckles or even suitably sized stainless cable. Either one would
give you the open look you want.

R


Posted by M on November 25, 2006, 6:31 pm

>>
>> Again the question is I want to have the breezeway with a cathedral
>> ceiling and was wondering if I can get away without the collar ties? It
>> is
>> 8'x10' 6-10 pitch
>
> You need to have either a structural ridge supporting the upper ends of
> the rafters or you need to have something tying the rafters together to
> resist the outward thrust of the rafters. Normally that is done by
> collar ties or ceiling joists. In your case since you want a cathedral
> ceiling you could tie the rafters together with some all thread and
> turnbuckles or even suitably sized stainless cable. Either one would
> give you the open look you want.
>
> R
>

there is a center ridge board at the peak on the breezeway. the two
buildings hold the 4 outer roof rafters. Inside there are two sets of
rafters that line up.... perhaps I should collar tie those two? Or do you
think I should do more?... perhaps I should photograph the situation and see
what you think?



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