building a pole shed Options

Posted by Tater on September 10, 2008, 9:14 pm

I have been thinking about building a pole shed for a few years, and
I
think next year is the time to start. can somone point out some
things
I need to research on this? this is a start of some of the issues I
am
looking at

40x40 shed in northern wisconsin
as cheap as possible, I've been looking at recycling from other
buildings for materials (freecycle.org and cragslist free areas)
use sonotube for forming pole footings
fill to level
2 inches of ground insulation (does it have to be a specific
insulation?) for frost to extend outwards 4 feet from floor of the
shed
how many inches of sand for burying tubing for future in-floor heat
rafters or roof trusses? build myself or buy (building at zero cost
is a plus)
does NOT have to be a clear span, 20x80 would be the same sq ft, but
I
dont have the foot print for such

I am possibly considering builing it in 4 sections, 10x40 to help
store additional shed materials and to make builing it easier.

Also, I've been scanning the freecycle and carigslist free areas and
have found a lot of "free, must be moved" buildings. aside from a lot
of labor is there a downside to recycling these building materials?

I plan on hopefully pouring a floor for it in the late future, should
I worry about the sand and radiant tubing now or then?

Posted by hawgeye on September 11, 2008, 7:32 am

> I need to research on this? this is a start of some of the issues I
> am
> looking at
> 40x40 shed in northern wisconsin
> as cheap as possible, I've been looking at recycling from other
> buildings for materials (freecycle.org and cragslist free areas)
> use sonotube for forming pole footings
> fill to level
> 2 inches of ground insulation (does it have to be a specific
> insulation?) for frost to extend outwards 4 feet from floor of the
> shed
> how many inches of sand for burying tubing for future in-floor heat

You're right, you do need to do some research. You lost me on the
insulation and frost, but you don't bury the tubing in sand unless you plan
on heating the sand.

> rafters or roof trusses? build myself or buy (building at zero cost
> is a plus)
> does NOT have to be a clear span, 20x80 would be the same sq ft, but
> I
> dont have the foot print for such
> I am possibly considering builing it in 4 sections, 10x40 to help
> store additional shed materials and to make builing it easier.
> Also, I've been scanning the freecycle and carigslist free areas and
> have found a lot of "free, must be moved" buildings. aside from a lot
> of labor is there a downside to recycling these building materials?

Yeah it double or triples the amount of work. Depending on it's age and
condition, a lot of pieces will get trashed during the demolition. Then
there is something about parts never quite going back together right after
demo. Even if you plan and mark each piece, at some point you're going to
wonder why you did this.

> I plan on hopefully pouring a floor for it in the late future, should
> I worry about the sand and radiant tubing now or then?

See my comment above. Don't even worry about the tubing until you're ready
to do the floor.

Posted by Phil on September 12, 2008, 11:03 am

> I have been thinking about building a pole shed for a few years, and
> I
> think next year is the time to start. can somone point out some
> things
> I need to research on this? this is a start of some of the issues I
> am
> looking at
> 40x40 shed in northern wisconsin
> as cheap as possible, I've been looking at recycling from other
> buildings for materials (freecycle.org and cragslist free areas)
> use sonotube for forming pole footings
> fill to level
> 2 inches of ground insulation (does it have to be a specific
> insulation?) for frost to extend outwards 4 feet from floor of the
> shed
> how many inches of sand for burying tubing for future in-floor heat
> rafters or roof trusses? build myself =A0or buy (building at zero cost
> is a plus)
> does NOT have to be a clear span, 20x80 would be the same sq ft, but
> I
> dont have the foot print for such
> I am possibly considering builing it in 4 sections, 10x40 to help
> store additional shed materials and to make builing it easier.
> Also, I've been scanning the freecycle and carigslist free areas and
> have found a lot of "free, must be moved" buildings. aside from a lot
> of labor is there a downside to recycling these building materials?
> I plan on hopefully pouring a floor for it in the late future, should
> I worry about the sand and radiant tubing now or then?

How many poles will this shed be built to store?

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