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height of stoop Steve 08-26-2006
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Posted by Steve on August 26, 2006, 9:24 pm
I have a covered concrete stoop that is about the same height as the 1st
floor with a raised door threshold seperating them.

My question is can I use 3/8 ceramic tile on the stoop or would raise the
stoop level the slighly ? The threshold will be slightly higher than the
finished tile but the floor of the house will be lower.

The stoop is sloped correctly and only driving rain will get close to the
door. The house and stoop are 50 y.o. On a neighbors house, during a recent
renovation, they cut the concrete down by about 1/2" with a saw. They then
layed flagstone.

Thanks in advanced to a great newsgroup.

Steve



Posted by tbasc@bellsouth.net on August 26, 2006, 9:59 pm

Steve wrote:
> I have a covered concrete stoop that is about the same height as the 1st
> floor with a raised door threshold seperating them.
>
> My question is can I use 3/8 ceramic tile on the stoop or would raise the
> stoop level the slighly ? The threshold will be slightly higher than the
> finished tile but the floor of the house will be lower.
>
> The stoop is sloped correctly and only driving rain will get close to the
> door. The house and stoop are 50 y.o. On a neighbors house, during a recent
> renovation, they cut the concrete down by about 1/2" with a saw. They then
> layed flagstone.
>
> Thanks in advanced to a great newsgroup.
>
> Steve

I think you could get away with what you propose, but as you clearly
feel it is taking a chance.
TB


Posted by clintonG on August 26, 2006, 10:00 pm
I wouldn't do it as is. Too many risks with weather and safety. Wet ceramic
tile is almost always slippery and water can and will get into the house
perhaps leaking under the threshold soaking and rotting structure beneath.

Think about setting the cutting depth of the blade on a circular saw to the
depth of the surface of the stoop that needs to be lowered. Snap a bunch of
lines one inch apart on the surface of the stoop and kerf the surface. Then
take a 3" cold chisel and a maul and take the kerfs off by hand.

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>I have a covered concrete stoop that is about the same height as the 1st
> floor with a raised door threshold seperating them.
>
> My question is can I use 3/8 ceramic tile on the stoop or would raise the
> stoop level the slighly ? The threshold will be slightly higher than the
> finished tile but the floor of the house will be lower.
>
> The stoop is sloped correctly and only driving rain will get close to the
> door. The house and stoop are 50 y.o. On a neighbors house, during a
> recent
> renovation, they cut the concrete down by about 1/2" with a saw. They then
> layed flagstone.
>
> Thanks in advanced to a great newsgroup.
>
> Steve
>
>



Posted by Steve on August 26, 2006, 10:05 pm
Thanks for the replies. Of course the tile would not be the usual bathroom
tile, bit one that is not slippery when wet.

I will consider cutting the concrete down using a circular saw and a diamong
blade. If I did that then I would use flagstone. I just think that my wife
would not want to deal with the project for 2 weeks. I do not know how long
it would take to cut down the 5' x 5' stoop. I would imagine that I could
leave the 2 steps alone. What do you think ???

Steve
> I wouldn't do it as is. Too many risks with weather and safety. Wet
ceramic
> tile is almost always slippery and water can and will get into the house
> perhaps leaking under the threshold soaking and rotting structure beneath.
>
> Think about setting the cutting depth of the blade on a circular saw to
the
> depth of the surface of the stoop that needs to be lowered. Snap a bunch
of
> lines one inch apart on the surface of the stoop and kerf the surface.
Then
> take a 3" cold chisel and a maul and take the kerfs off by hand.



Posted by tbasc@bellsouth.net on August 27, 2006, 8:37 am
Steve,
Code says risers and treads are to be uniform. I think 3/8" variation
is allowed.
Clinton makes an excellent point about water and the frame of the
house.
I see it all the time and fired off a response without thinking.
Flashing that runs from below the threshold and down the face of the
framing is helpful.
Dams at the jambs are the best way to go.
Your wife may want to visit family for a week or so.
TB

Steve wrote:
> Thanks for the replies. Of course the tile would not be the usual bathroom
> tile, bit one that is not slippery when wet.
>
> I will consider cutting the concrete down using a circular saw and a diamong
> blade. If I did that then I would use flagstone. I just think that my wife
> would not want to deal with the project for 2 weeks. I do not know how long
> it would take to cut down the 5' x 5' stoop. I would imagine that I could
> leave the 2 steps alone. What do you think ???
>
> Steve
> > I wouldn't do it as is. Too many risks with weather and safety. Wet
> ceramic
> > tile is almost always slippery and water can and will get into the house
> > perhaps leaking under the threshold soaking and rotting structure beneath.
> >
> > Think about setting the cutting depth of the blade on a circular saw to
> the
> > depth of the surface of the stoop that needs to be lowered. Snap a bunch
> of
> > lines one inch apart on the surface of the stoop and kerf the surface.
> Then
> > take a 3" cold chisel and a maul and take the kerfs off by hand.


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