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is a 10" step code? Carl K 07-26-2006
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Posted by Carl K on July 27, 2006, 10:15 am
Steve Barker LT wrote:
> Another 4" of concrete would be a simple cure. Taper off at the entrance.

Can you just pour over existing like that? I would think it would crack,
especially the 'taper' part.

Posted by longshot on July 27, 2006, 10:41 am

> Steve Barker LT wrote:
>> Another 4" of concrete would be a simple cure. Taper off at the
>> entrance.
>
> Can you just pour over existing like that? I would think it would crack,
> especially the 'taper' part. the thinnest part should be at least 3"
> thick, I have seen them done like you are saying & the taper part needs to
> be dugout, the remaining part could stay



Posted by Carl K on July 27, 2006, 11:09 am
longshot wrote:
>> Steve Barker LT wrote:
>>> Another 4" of concrete would be a simple cure. Taper off at the
>>> entrance.
>> Can you just pour over existing like that? I would think it would crack,
>> especially the 'taper' part.


: The thinnest part should be at least 3"
: thick, I have seen them done like you are saying & the taper part needs to
: be dugout, the remaining part could stay

To make Ron (friend/homeowner) happy, they would have to fill up the whole
10-14", less the 1" lip/gunk trap. (at this point maybe even fill the whole way
and leave a 2" trough that could be covered with a grate.

Which means the drive way would also have to be fixed to meet the higher floor.
The taper would end up at the curb.

Ron is looking at another lot.

Posted by Italian on July 26, 2006, 9:22 pm
Call the local building department... and let them deal with this
through the building permit..definate violation not matter what state
you are in. I would take this as a sign that bigger in not always
better......and keep an eye on this guys subs.
Carl K wrote:
> Friend of mine is having a house built by David Weekly Homes (huge builder.)
>
> He was expecting to get a garage floor like this:
> http://www.rondarling.name/pics/v/rondarling/mynewhouse/IMG_8954.JPG.html
>
> and now has this:
>
http://www.rondarling.name/pics/v/rondarling/mynewhouse/album_001/IMG_9720.JPG.html
>
> The ledge you see is 10" on the far end and 14" on the other.
>
> There is not going to be a wall on that ledge - the garage was to be part car
> parking, part work shop with a 'small step' between the 2 to keep car gunk
(like
> snow) from invading the work space.
>
> The builder currently is not going to change it.
>
> 10" is a bit of a step. I am wondering if it isn't a code violation, which
> should compel the builder to do something.
>
> Anyone have any advice?
>
> Carl K


Posted by Shannon Pate on July 27, 2006, 12:01 am
I'm not convinced that there is a code violation here. I'll check the IRC
2003 tomorrow to be sure.

I don't believe the code says that you would have to have a "stair" here.
Its less than 30" so you wouldn't even have to have a guardrail.

Now, if you decide to install stairs between these two floors, those stairs
would have to meet the codes which would include a maximum riser height of 7
3/4" and a minimum tread depth of 10".

Shannon Pate

> Call the local building department... and let them deal with this
> through the building permit..definate violation not matter what state
> you are in. I would take this as a sign that bigger in not always
> better......and keep an eye on this guys subs.
> Carl K wrote:
>> Friend of mine is having a house built by David Weekly Homes (huge
>> builder.)
>>
>> He was expecting to get a garage floor like this:
>> http://www.rondarling.name/pics/v/rondarling/mynewhouse/IMG_8954.JPG.html
>>
>> and now has this:
>>
http://www.rondarling.name/pics/v/rondarling/mynewhouse/album_001/IMG_9720.JPG.html
>>
>> The ledge you see is 10" on the far end and 14" on the other.
>>
>> There is not going to be a wall on that ledge - the garage was to be part
>> car
>> parking, part work shop with a 'small step' between the 2 to keep car
>> gunk (like
>> snow) from invading the work space.
>>
>> The builder currently is not going to change it.
>>
>> 10" is a bit of a step. I am wondering if it isn't a code violation,
>> which
>> should compel the builder to do something.
>>
>> Anyone have any advice?
>>
>> Carl K
>



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