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Posted by dave on July 1, 2007, 3:57 pm
I'm considering buying this building (please see six or eight images
posted below)
http://machines.pandela.net/concrete_bunker/
I -think- it's a tilt-up concrete building. I haven't yet seen the
interior. I do need at least ONE door on the building that's wider than
the ones pictured (there are only four 'man doors' on one side, and no
other doors). tax roll says the building, outside, is 19 x 60 feet...
so, does anybody here recognize this bulding 'type' as being typically
made by any one maker or contractor? it's in north central florida, and
was built by some (now bankrupt) communications company for use as a
fiber-optics switching station (is my present understanding, anyway).
what I'm *really* trying to determine is how difficult (and/or costly)
it might end up being to cut a bigger opening in one of the wall panels
(for a rollup door, or some similar).
biggest concern is trying to figure out what might be -inside- the
concrete wall, in terms of steel reinforcement, or "stuff I'd have to
cut through" to make a doorway wider (on one or both sides of it). it
might be simpler (and less costly) just to remove and replace an entire
panel...
thanks, I'm wide open for comments and suggestions here,
toolie
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Posted by dave on July 1, 2007, 4:11 pm
dave wrote:
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> I'm considering buying this building (please see six or eight images
> posted below)
SORRY guys, I got the images address wrong the 1st time. the -correct-
images address is
http://machines.pandela.net/bunker_building/
toolie
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> replies by e-mail, if any, please remove the weirdstuff from my address
> before you click 'send' thanks :-)
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Posted by Glenn on July 1, 2007, 4:55 pm
Looks like a nice sound building and must be insulated
at least 1/2 way judging by the AC units showing. They
building some secret space module in there that they
won't let in to see? Something sounds a little weird
there.
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> dave wrote:
>> I'm considering buying this building (please see six
>> or eight images posted below)
> SORRY guys, I got the images address wrong the 1st
> time. the -correct- images address is
> http://machines.pandela.net/bunker_building/
> toolie
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>> replies by e-mail, if any, please remove the
>> weirdstuff from my address before you click 'send'
>> thanks :-)
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Posted by Robert Allison on July 1, 2007, 6:39 pm
dave wrote:
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> I'm considering buying this building (please see six or eight images
> posted below)
>
> http://machines.pandela.net/concrete_bunker/
>
> I -think- it's a tilt-up concrete building. I haven't yet seen the
> interior. I do need at least ONE door on the building that's wider than
> the ones pictured (there are only four 'man doors' on one side, and no
> other doors). tax roll says the building, outside, is 19 x 60 feet...
>
> so, does anybody here recognize this bulding 'type' as being typically
> made by any one maker or contractor? it's in north central florida, and
> was built by some (now bankrupt) communications company for use as a
> fiber-optics switching station (is my present understanding, anyway).
>
> what I'm *really* trying to determine is how difficult (and/or costly)
> it might end up being to cut a bigger opening in one of the wall panels
> (for a rollup door, or some similar).
>
> biggest concern is trying to figure out what might be -inside- the
> concrete wall, in terms of steel reinforcement, or "stuff I'd have to
> cut through" to make a doorway wider (on one or both sides of it). it
> might be simpler (and less costly) just to remove and replace an entire
> panel...
>
> thanks, I'm wide open for comments and suggestions here,
>
> toolie
>
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> replies by e-mail, if any, please remove the weirdstuff from my address
> before you click 'send' thanks :-)
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It is a tilt wall building. You are going to find rebar in
the wall, but that is not a major issue if you want to cut a
larger hole for a doorway. They make saws that cut both
concrete and rebar in one cut.
Forget about removing a panel and replacing it. That is FAR
more work than just cutting out a larger hole.
--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX
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Posted by dave on July 7, 2007, 3:05 pm
Robert Allison wrote:
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> It is a tilt wall building. You are going to find rebar in the wall,
> but that is not a major issue if you want to cut a larger hole for a
> doorway. They make saws that cut both concrete and rebar in one cut.
>
> Forget about removing a panel and replacing it. That is FAR more work
> than just cutting out a larger hole.
thanks robert, and you other guys too :-)
upon reflection, it appears there's only -two- options if I want to cut
in a wider doorway, far as where I can place it. but *both* options
involve cutting TWO panels.
I've appended my site, to include images of the two 'tentative wall
cutting plan' images - please see
http://machines.pandela.net/bunker_building/photo9.html
and
http://machines.pandela.net/bunker_building/photo10.html
and tell me what you think...after the panels are cut, I'd essentially
have "two lopsided upside-down letter L-shaped panels" surrounding the
(new) rollup door...since the building is 60 feet long, I'm assuming
each (of the six) panels is ten feet across
I might have to 'cob in' some sort of steel header up there, possibly
with steel side support posts? or?
ALL comments welcome :-)
thanks for all,
toolie
ps - still haven't seen the interior, but expect to within next ten
days...what's 'affixed to' the inside wall might have some effect on
wether cut plan A or B gets elected....
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