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pole building Vaughn 02-25-2007
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Posted by M&S on February 28, 2007, 8:17 pm
Vaughn wrote:

> Lawrence & others
> Thanks for the response.
> I had no real anticipated problems except a little concern on the
> height.I'm planning on putting an 18 ft roll door in and wondered if I would
> be getting too high.
> My plans are to use juniper posts instead of pressure treated.The reason
> being "cost" of course,is that a mistake.
> I'm also planning on finishing the inside (sometime in future) but are the
> cost savings on the exterior going to translate into extra costing on the
> inside?
>
>
>>
>>>I'm planning on putting up a pole building.It will be used for storage
>
> of a
>
>>>boat ,tractor etc.Also I plan on a workshop inside and mechanical
>
> room.Any
>
>>>thoughts on things I should take note of before I start.I have some
>
> building
>
>>>experience in regular construction,but not the pole barn type.Any and
>
> all
>
>>>ideas are welcome!!
>>
>>Pole barns are the easiest most understandable type of building to
>>construct. There are many good books on the subject so read up.
>>
>>One decision is whether to use real poles or dimensioned timbers for
>>your main supports. Poles are stronger. Timbers are more expensive
>>but easier to use. When using a tapered pole you plumb the inside
>>surface of the pole.
>>
>>Roof design is another major decision. Trusses are usually used and
>>gives you that uninterrupted space which is so nice. However, they
>>required equipment and manpower to install. Ordinary roof designs can
>>be used you just have to have those intermediate supports taking up
>>your floor space. You might also need longer poles to reach the
>>ridge.
>>
>>My pole building will use dimensioned timbers on 12ft centers. I will
>>drill the holes with an bobcat auger. I will use concrete in the
>>holes since my soil is poor. Trusses are in my design and I will hire
>>a crew and machine when the time comes. Steel is the siding of choice
>>and is what i plan to use.
>>
>>There are many other things to be considered. Those are just a few.
>>What problems or questions do you anticipate?
>>
>>
>
>
>
If you still want to save money you may want to look into deviating from
the traditional pole building and use poured concrete piers below ground
transitioning to your juniper poles above ground. It will mean adding
some bracing and a connector but the cost may be offset by getting away
from 24' treated 6x6's.

The Juniper simply wont last underground.

Mark



Posted by Lawrence on March 1, 2007, 10:29 am
> Lawrence & others
> Thanks for the response.
> I had no real anticipated problems except a little concern on the
> height.I'm planning on putting an 18 ft roll door in and wondered if I would
> be getting too high.
> My plans are to use juniper posts instead of pressure treated.The reason
> being "cost" of course,is that a mistake.
> I'm also planning on finishing the inside (sometime in future) but are the
> cost savings on the exterior going to translate into extra costing on the
> inside?
>
Why do you need such a tall door? Don't buy more door than you
need. Unless you have very large equipment you can likely get by with
something smaller. Smaller doors will be less expensive and more
reliable.

One neighbor turned his hay field into a landing strip. He built a
barn (hangar?) for the plane. His solution was to buy folding doors.
I have only seen roll up doors used on commercial storage but I'm sure
you can get them if you really want.

As far as I know, Juniper and Cedar are the same wood. Where I am, it
cost about three times the cost of treated. Cedar is very rot
resistant but like the others said, PT last a lot, lot longer. So,
there is no cost savings unless you harvested the poles yourself.

Many, many, very cool interior ideas are available for the pole
building. If you use trusses you will have a completely open floor
plan which can be divided and insulated at your whim. Multiple levels
are possible as well as cantilevered decks and living spaces.

Pole structures are incredibly strong since the load is transferred
directly to the ground and will support surprisingly large
cantilevers. This can give yu a lot of square feet exterior of the
poles and not easily obtainable with conventional construction.

Some designs which include insulated walls actually build the walls
onto a cantilevered support. This allows you to build an uniterrupted
wall without any interference with the sub-structure. That's just one
idea since the pole structure is so simple yet strong and very
adaptable to many different designs.

Pole barns have their downside of course. But for the owner builder
it is by far the easiest and most cost effective thing to build and
you can have every expectation that it will outlast you.


Posted by v8z on February 26, 2007, 7:44 pm
Depending on your geographic location, an option might be a
www.waynesbuildingsupply.com Polar Barn.

A relation of mine put one of these up, and its a really slick package -
well engineered, complete package of wall panels, top plates, trusses,
purlins, roof insulation, steel siding and roofing, trim & fascia materials,
rat fillers, fasteners, and drawings. ( no i don't work for them....) Wall
panels are a sort of SIP, but using dimensional framing instead of OSB
skins.

Can be installed on slab with footing, or concrete piers on 8' centers.

I'm going to be ordering a package for a 32'x56' with two man-doors, a
roll-up door, and trim for 3 windows later this spring. Current price is
10,800 for the materials package. He also offers slab insulation. Only
negative is max 10' eave height which limits you to an 8' high roll-up
versus pole building which can go higher.

> I'm planning on putting up a pole building.It will be used for storage of
a
> boat ,tractor etc.Also I plan on a workshop inside and mechanical room.Any
> thoughts on things I should take note of before I start.I have some
building
> experience in regular construction,but not the pole barn type.Any and all
> ideas are welcome!!
>
>



Posted by on February 27, 2007, 12:52 pm

>Depending on your geographic location, an option might be a
>www.waynesbuildingsupply.com Polar Barn.

wow

very very cool!!

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