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question about rebuilding a brick chimney mrsgator88 11-01-2007
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Posted by mogator88 on November 1, 2007, 4:14 pm
> wrote:
>
> > Sure enough, the
> >tuckpointer says he lays about 6 courses of outer brick, then lays the inner
> >brick, and tying it together with wire.
>
> I'm not sure I like the idea of tying together with wire when doing a
> chimney. I'd worry about problems with corrosive gases causing early
> failure in the wire.
>
> but that is an IMHO...

Well, I went to the jobsite this morning, and the inner layer was not
level with the outer layer! The worker on site told me he'd get the
layers even by cutting down the last row of bricks... OMG!

The contractor came by a little later and tried to convince me that
tying together the layers would be fine. I explained they were
uneven. When I asked how he would tie them together, being they were
uneven, he started yelling at me asking what I knew about
bricklaying. Then literally stacked bricks on the ground to show him
what I meant by uneven.

Then he threw up his hands and said he'd be taking down the chimney
and doing it again. I told him I wanted it done with stretcher bricks
every sixth course, which is the way it was originally. Fortunately,
I took several pictures of the chimney before it came down, and gave
him a couple of pictures so he could see what I meant.

Another thing his worker did, was to stack the bricks dry. These are
the original chimney bricks, over 80 years old, so there is some
deterioration. I asked him why his worker didn't spray the surface of
the bricks to moisten them, he said the mortar holds better on a dry
brick... That doesn't sound right to me.

So, since old bricks with some spalling are being reused, do I still
want them moistened before being mortared?


Posted by tbasc@bellsouth.net on November 1, 2007, 6:09 pm
>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Sure enough, the
> > >tuckpointer says he lays about 6 courses of outer brick, then lays the inner
> > >brick, and tying it together with wire.
>
> > I'm not sure I like the idea of tying together with wire when doing a
> > chimney. I'd worry about problems with corrosive gases causing early
> > failure in the wire.
>
> > but that is an IMHO...
>
> Well, I went to the jobsite this morning, and the inner layer was not
> level with the outer layer! The worker on site told me he'd get the
> layers even by cutting down the last row of bricks... OMG!
>
> The contractor came by a little later and tried to convince me that
> tying together the layers would be fine. I explained they were
> uneven. When I asked how he would tie them together, being they were
> uneven, he started yelling at me asking what I knew about
> bricklaying. Then literally stacked bricks on the ground to show him
> what I meant by uneven.
>
> Then he threw up his hands and said he'd be taking down the chimney
> and doing it again. I told him I wanted it done with stretcher bricks
> every sixth course, which is the way it was originally. Fortunately,
> I took several pictures of the chimney before it came down, and gave
> him a couple of pictures so he could see what I meant.
>
> Another thing his worker did, was to stack the bricks dry. These are
> the original chimney bricks, over 80 years old, so there is some
> deterioration. I asked him why his worker didn't spray the surface of
> the bricks to moisten them, he said the mortar holds better on a dry
> brick... That doesn't sound right to me.
>
> So, since old bricks with some spalling are being reused, do I still
> want them moistened before being mortared?

Check the BIA (Brick Industry Association) web site.
Technical notes are useful.
T


Posted by tmurf.1@juno.com on November 1, 2007, 8:59 pm
>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Sure enough, the
> > >tuckpointer says he lays about 6 courses of outer brick, then lays the inner
> > >brick, and tying it together with wire.
>
> > I'm not sure I like the idea of tying together with wire when doing a
> > chimney. I'd worry about problems with corrosive gases causing early
> > failure in the wire.
>
> > but that is an IMHO...
>
> Well, I went to the jobsite this morning, and the inner layer was not
> level with the outer layer! The worker on site told me he'd get the
> layers even by cutting down the last row of bricks... OMG!
>
> The contractor came by a little later and tried to convince me that
> tying together the layers would be fine. I explained they were
> uneven. When I asked how he would tie them together, being they were
> uneven, he started yelling at me asking what I knew about
> bricklaying. Then literally stacked bricks on the ground to show him
> what I meant by uneven.
>
> Then he threw up his hands and said he'd be taking down the chimney
> and doing it again. I told him I wanted it done with stretcher bricks
> every sixth course, which is the way it was originally. Fortunately,
> I took several pictures of the chimney before it came down, and gave
> him a couple of pictures so he could see what I meant.
>
> Another thing his worker did, was to stack the bricks dry. These are
> the original chimney bricks, over 80 years old, so there is some
> deterioration. I asked him why his worker didn't spray the surface of
> the bricks to moisten them, he said the mortar holds better on a dry
> brick... That doesn't sound right to me.
>
> So, since old bricks with some spalling are being reused, do I still
> want them moistened before being mortared?

(1) Why did you hire a tuck pointer to do a bricklayers job?
(2) When he started yelling at you, why did you not fire his ass?
you are paying him to do a job for you. Don't take any shit from your
hired help.


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