responsibility

Posted by willshak on May 25, 2009, 11:00 am

on 5/25/2009 8:55 AM (ET) PeterD wrote the following:

> wrote:
>

>> on 5/24/2009 5:57 PM (ET) Tim wrote the following:
>>

>>> I had the sinking feeling that the homeowner could say that the
>>> contract was oral and the homeowner paid the contrator in cash to do
>>> extra work and the contractor didn't do it. It's like when I found out
>>> that whatever a contractor says is under penalty of perjury but not
>>> the homeowner. So basically, I could say that I hired Bill in
>>> Hamptonburgh, NY to remodel my bathroom and I paid him $25,000 in cash
>>> (because he only accepts cash) and when he didn't do it, I filed a
>>> complaint. Bill says he doesn't know what I am talking about, I swear
>>> up and down he STOLE MY MONEY. The problem, naturally, is how does
>>> Bill prove he didn't do it? Contractors boards don't care much about
>>> how many nails you put in a Simpson clip, they care more about
>>> contracts and how consumers are treated. A mean contractor like Bill
>>> (just kidding Bill) stole this poor homeowner's money. He says he
>>> didn't do it, but as we all know, contractors are all lying, cheating
>>> bad guys. Rock and a hard place.
>>>

>> I still deny I didn't take his money. You can ask my brother-in-law, who
>> I gave half the money to... :-P
>>

> Give me half your brother-in-law's share, and I'll agree with you too!
> <g>
> Give me all, and I'll take care of your 'brother-in-law' so he doesn't
> need any future payoffs.
> BTW, I to have a brother-in-law, wanna trade 'em?
>

Actually, No. I have the best brother-in-law (wife's brother). He's
funny. He never bothers me or borrows tools. I almost have to beg him to
come and visit and he only lives 35 minutes away.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
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Posted by PeterD on May 25, 2009, 8:53 am

wrote:

>I had the sinking feeling that the homeowner could say that the contract was
>oral

Thank you for saying 'oral' and not saying 'verbal'! (All contracts
are verbal, verbal means 'of words'!)

>nd the homeowner paid the contrator in cash to do extra work and the
>contractor didn't do it.

And an oral contract is worth every cent of the paper it was writtin
on! IOW, it is a meaningless concept in this case. Again, I suspect a
licensing board would say "sorry..." to the homeowner.

>It's like when I found out that whatever a
>contractor says is under penalty of perjury but not the homeowner. So
>basically, I could say that I hired Bill in Hamptonburgh, NY to remodel my
>bathroom and I paid him $25,000 in cash (because he only accepts cash) and
>when he didn't do it, I filed a complaint. Bill says he doesn't know what I
>am talking about, I swear up and down he STOLE MY MONEY.

And you the customer now understand the value of a written contract,

and a receipt for the cash! <bg> And if that Bill guy won't do either,

he's one to give a wide miss to!

>The problem,
>naturally, is how does Bill prove he didn't do it? Contractors boards don't
>care much about how many nails you put in a Simpson clip, they care more
>about contracts and how consumers are treated.

Absolutely. Without a (written) contract, it is a case of 'He said,
she said'!

>A mean contractor like Bill
>(just kidding Bill) stole this poor homeowner's money.

Bill's like that! <g>

> He says he didn't do
>it, but as we all know, contractors are all lying, cheating bad guys. Rock
>and a hard place.

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