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soundproofing with a layer of cork under hardwood. marson 01-10-2007
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Posted by marson on January 12, 2007, 7:48 pm
really it's been going pretty well. they've been excellent customers.
it's frustrating sometimes to deal with the profusion of "expert
advice" available on the net. never know who knows what they are
talking about and who is selling snake oil.

i got it dried in just over a week ago. it's a dang tower--30' to the
eave on the walkout side. shelled it up with the outer 2x4 wall, and
now we are going back and doing the inner walls and parts. it'll take a
semi truck full of cellulose to fill those walls.

I oversized the ro's by 1 5/8ths and am boxing them in with 1x pine.
will seal the window to that and the vb to the 1x box.


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Posted by M&S on January 12, 2007, 7:56 pm
marson wrote:

> really it's been going pretty well. they've been excellent customers.
> it's frustrating sometimes to deal with the profusion of "expert
> advice" available on the net. never know who knows what they are
> talking about and who is selling snake oil.
>
> i got it dried in just over a week ago. it's a dang tower--30' to the
> eave on the walkout side. shelled it up with the outer 2x4 wall, and
> now we are going back and doing the inner walls and parts. it'll take a
> semi truck full of cellulose to fill those walls.
>
> I oversized the ro's by 1 5/8ths and am boxing them in with 1x pine.
> will seal the window to that and the vb to the 1x box.
>


Wow good for you. Glad to hear its going well. Would love to hear more
as it progresses.

Mark


Posted by thetiler on January 14, 2007, 12:39 am
1/4" cork is an effective soundproofing. Where the most sound
transfer will take place is at the perimeters, where the wood meets
the walls- that is transfer of sound into the walls and down from
there. The fasteners will transfer a smaller percentage of sound.
Even with fasteners, the cork would help quite a bit.

I don't understand why the 1/2" layer of plywood on top? Why
not just glue down the cork, then nail the wood directly on top of
it into the 3/4" subfloor?

Also, there is 1/2" inch cork, and more expensive and thinner
sound proofing membranes available that have higher
sound proofing qualities and are denser if needed.

For a correctly done job, he should glue down the cork, then
go directly over it with a 'floating' wood floor such as wood
laminate (pergo). Then there wouldn't be any transfer of sound
with fasteners, and since the flooring doesn't touch the outside
walls- no sound transfer.

Many condo's here require 1/2" of cork, which makes a
great sound proofing material and is inexpensive, and the pergo
type floor can be laid directly over it.

I'm guessing at all this though since my subflooing/soundproofing
experience is all with ceramic/porcelain tiles and I don't use
fasteners (not for the tile anyway :-)
In tilework the floor needs to be extremely strong so.......
in my case I would add the 1/2" plywood to the 3/4" plywood,
glueing and screwing those two together, then glue down
cork (when soundproofing is required), then thinset down tiles.

thetiler

marson wrote:
> I am building a house for a customer who is planning to do his own
> hardwood flooring installation (above grade, installed on 3/4"
> plywood.) He recently informed my that he intends to install a layer
> of 1/4" cork, then a layer of 1/2" plywood, then his hardwood strip
> flooring (nail down).
>
> I have two concerns about this: first, wouldn't the fasteners that you
> use, both to fasten the 1/2" plywood and then to staple down the
> hardwood, penetrate into the subfloor and negate the soundproofing
> qualities of the cork?
>
> Second, what do you think of nailing hardwood flooring into 1/2"
> plywood? I am somewhat skeptical about the nail holding ability of
> just 1/2" plywood.
>
> Anyone done this or know about this?


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