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steel building house revisited brianlanning 10-04-2006
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Posted by Bob Morrison on October 23, 2006, 6:25 pm
In a previous post Raider Bill wrote...
> I checked out some sips, I want a metal roof, seems like they would
> kill a couple birds with one stone. If I had metal on the upside with
> insulation inthe middle do they have any that are faced with a log or
> tongue and groove facing?

You could probably pre-install some sort of paneling that gives the look
you want.

> Does anyone know of a guy that specilizes in planning and drawing a
> hybrid post and beam house complete to cut list and assembly plans?
> Did I mention cheap?
>

Post & beam construction that looks good is not cheap. If you want cheap,
then build a conventional frame house. There is a reason that tract homes
are built using conventional wood framing. Compared to other forms of
construction it is inexpensive to put up.

--
Bob Morrison, PE, SE
R L Morrison Engineering Co
Structural & Civil Engineering
Poulsbo WA
bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com

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Posted by Raider Bill on October 23, 2006, 9:31 pm
Well cheap is a relevent term. I guess I'd ratherr put my $$$ into
worthwhile parts of the building process. Today I thought, as long as
I'm thinking of a 4' crawl space and a 3 course block wall [knee wall]
why not go ahead and build a 10' ceiling garage under the house? My way
of thinking is that I will have to build a shop sometime, about 30X40
min. if the house is already close to that I would be saving money by
consoladating the garge house instead of building a 2.5 car attached
then a shop detached.
I do like the post and beam look. But still up in the air that's why
the Hybrid seemed along my lines.
I only want to do this once so I would rather do iut right this time.
That was my mantra when I built this place. Everything was done right
and to last. Too bad I will be elsewhere living to enjoy it thanks to
the extreme cost of property insurance here in florida!



Bob Morrison wrote:
> In a previous post Raider Bill wrote...
> > I checked out some sips, I want a metal roof, seems like they would
> > kill a couple birds with one stone. If I had metal on the upside with
> > insulation inthe middle do they have any that are faced with a log or
> > tongue and groove facing?
>
> You could probably pre-install some sort of paneling that gives the look
> you want.
>
> > Does anyone know of a guy that specilizes in planning and drawing a
> > hybrid post and beam house complete to cut list and assembly plans?
> > Did I mention cheap?
> >
>
> Post & beam construction that looks good is not cheap. If you want cheap,
> then build a conventional frame house. There is a reason that tract homes
> are built using conventional wood framing. Compared to other forms of
> construction it is inexpensive to put up.
>
> --
> Bob Morrison, PE, SE
> R L Morrison Engineering Co
> Structural & Civil Engineering
> Poulsbo WA
> bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com


Posted by Bob Morrison on October 24, 2006, 10:21 am
In a previous post Raider Bill wrote...
> Well cheap is a relevent term. I guess I'd ratherr put my $$$ into
> worthwhile parts of the building process.
>

Bill:

Paying a good designer (who will not be cheap) for a quality set of plans
is the way to have a quality project. My mantra is that I try to save the
cost of my fee in innovative design and selection of the right materials
for the project.

As any good contractor will tell you, a good set of plans is worth a great
deal of time and money. In my experience you don't get a good set of
plans from a "cheap" designer.

--
Bob Morrison, PE, SE
R L Morrison Engineering Co
Structural & Civil Engineering
Poulsbo WA
bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com

Posted by Raider Bill on October 25, 2006, 9:52 am
Bob,

When I built my house in florida, [5200 sqft] I used a local guy who
made thing very easy for me. Let's face it, those letters after you
name are missing behind mine!
When I say cheap I mean stick to basics, I would build a strong safe
and effeciant house without frills. They can come later once the
structure is dried in.

My local guy doesn't want to do this house for several reasons, one
being he is too busy on large projects and the second, he says that
post and beam is not his thing espessically since I asked him if he
could supply a cut list.

I looked around and found this guy,
http://www.timberframedesign.net/Index.html
Does anyone know of him? Any suggestions?>
What should I expect to pay for a designer/ arch.?

On another note, this has really gone past the steel house revisited
thread, should I open up another one?

Thanks

Bill

Bob Morrison wrote:
> In a previous post Raider Bill wrote...
> > Well cheap is a relevent term. I guess I'd ratherr put my $$$ into
> > worthwhile parts of the building process.
> >
>
> Bill:
>
> Paying a good designer (who will not be cheap) for a quality set of plans
> is the way to have a quality project. My mantra is that I try to save the
> cost of my fee in innovative design and selection of the right materials
> for the project.
>
> As any good contractor will tell you, a good set of plans is worth a great
> deal of time and money. In my experience you don't get a good set of
> plans from a "cheap" designer.
>
> --
> Bob Morrison, PE, SE
> R L Morrison Engineering Co
> Structural & Civil Engineering
> Poulsbo WA
> bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com


Posted by Bob Morrison on October 25, 2006, 11:27 am
In a previous post Raider Bill wrote...
> I looked around and found this guy,
> http://www.timberframedesign.net/Index.html
> Does anyone know of him? Any suggestions?>
> What should I expect to pay for a designer/ arch.?
>

From his website he looks like he knows what he is doing. Don't be
surprised if your local jurisdiction requires engineering calculations for
this type of house.

> On another note, this has really gone past the steel house revisited
> thread, should I open up another one?

Yes, I just did

--
Bob Morrison, PE, SE
R L Morrison Engineering Co
Structural & Civil Engineering
Poulsbo WA
bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com

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