steps in rebuilding a bathroom

Posted by jzfredricks on July 1, 2009, 7:38 pm

On Jul 2, 3:19=A0am, "Cwatters"

> Floors must be very rigid or tiles and grout will crack. Normally some
> stiffening work has to be done. There are ways to do this using plywood a=

> proprietary boards.

cheers, that makes sense.

Posted by Dave in Houston on July 2, 2009, 12:44 am

On Jul 2, 3:19 am, "Cwatters"

> Floors must be very rigid or tiles and grout will crack. Normally some
> stiffening work has to be done. There are ways to do this using plywood
> and
> proprietary boards.

cheers, that makes sense.

Absolutely. Since the floor was the primary issue prompting the remodel it
is only prudent that you remove as much of the subfloor as possible and
re-frame the floor joist system. This is good spot for 12-inch on-center
structural members sized appropriately for the span. I would crossbrace
frequently as well.
If you are able to frame for it (dimensionally speaking) SturdiFloor is
a 1-1/8 inch thick, tongue-in-groove plywood that will insure zero movement.
Be sure to place adhesive (Liquid Nails) on all floor joists before
installing the new subfloor. You can get away with ring-shank nails for the
subfloor but we like 3-inch screws a lot better. You'll need to allow for
the thickness of the subfloor, 1/2 inch HardiBacker over that and the
thickness of your floor tile plus a little for the thinset if you want the
bathroom floor level to be level with the hall (?) floor.

Dave in Houston

Posted by jloomis on July 1, 2009, 9:59 pm

Looks like you are on a right track.
Make sure you have a professional plumber!
Also pick fixtures ahead of time........
Electrical, toilet, shower and or tub and valves.

Toilet paper hangers, towel hangers, Vanities, vents, heater?
Mirror size and placement....
What finish is going to be used, tile size, and quantity......
Get a dumpster or a good place to dump the load.
Try not to pick it up too many times......
Wear dust masks and eye protection.......
make sure that there is crawl space under the floor...........
Use nail protectors on plumbing and wiring....
Take pictures of all blocking for above fixtures or items....
Bolocking is important...
Use a good 3/4" subfloor ply glued to the joist.....
You can use hardibacker board for tile or set the tile in a mortar bed...
Do not set tile on sheet rock.....
There is maybe more to this list, but I gave it a good whack..

I just finished 4 high end baths.....I can write a book.....
john

> Hi all,
> I'm doing some bathroom rebuilding, and I'm trying to get a better
> understanding of the steps involved. If anyone sees anything miss,
> could they please shout out?
> thanks in advance!
> It's a brick veneer house, with wooden frames.
> Steps, as I know them;
> 1) demolish bathroom
> 2) relocate pipes and power (we're moving a few things, like the bath)
> 3) replace floor (water damaged, and the main reason for the reno)
> 4) resheet walls
> 5) waterproof
> 6) bed floor
> 7) tile floor and walls
> 8) plumber and electrician finish off
> 9) paint ceiling
> a friend of a friend, who might be hard to contact, let me some a
> similar list but it included a step between 4 and 5 above. The step
> was "tile on timber floor (villaboard)" but i can't for the life of me
> work out what it might mean.
> any thoughts?
> thanks again

Posted by jzfredricks on July 2, 2009, 12:56 am

> Make sure you have a professional plumber!

thanks. Yeah, everyone will be fully licensed etc. I'm mainly asking
as I always like to know wtf is happening.

> make sure that there is crawl space under the floor...........

pretty sure (as in 100%) this will be impossible with our construction
type. The only real gap is between the joists.

> Take pictures of all blocking for above fixtures or items....

Please clarify?

> Bolocking is important...

Plenty of that happens, never you mind!

Posted by SteveBell on July 2, 2009, 1:24 am

jzfredricks | 2009-07-01 | 11:56:52 PM wrote:

>> Take pictures of all blocking for above fixtures or items....

>Please clarify?

Take pictures of the insides of the walls, floor, and ceiling before
they're closed up. The pictures are useful for future remodelling and
repairs.

--
Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX USA

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