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strong concrete block walls PaulS 04-10-2008
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Posted by tmurf.1@juno.com on April 11, 2008, 2:53 pm
>
>
> > Hello, I will build a concrete block wall 4 blocks high for a garage.
> > Three of the courses will be below grade. =A0I want to make this wall as=

> > strong as practically possible. (I could not use a poured wall because o=
f
> > access problems). =A0I live in a freeze/thaw area. I want to use some re=
bar
> > in the cores for strength. =A0Should these cores with rebar be filled wi=
th
> > concrete or mortar? =A0Also anything I can do to prevent cracking from t=
he
> > freeze/thaw cycles? =A0Would a control joint on each wall make sense?
> > Thanks, paul
>
> Thanks.
> Basically I don't want the wall to crack. =A0It will sit on a 8 x 16 foote=
r at
> the frost line. The wall will be 4 blocks high with 3 below ground. =A0My
> concern was could expansion/contraction from freezing/thawing crack the
> wall? =A0And if so, is there anything I can do to prevent this?
> I'm not sure this would normally happen, so maybe it's not a problem, but
> since I don't know I sent the post. =A0I will use the rebar in the footer =
and
> at 4' as DanG suggested.
> Thanks,
> Paul

What part of the country do you live in?

Posted by PaulS on April 11, 2008, 4:43 pm

>
>
> > Hello, I will build a concrete block wall 4 blocks high for a garage.
> > Three of the courses will be below grade. I want to make this wall as
> > strong as practically possible. (I could not use a poured wall because
> > of
> > access problems). I live in a freeze/thaw area. I want to use some rebar
> > in the cores for strength. Should these cores with rebar be filled with
> > concrete or mortar? Also anything I can do to prevent cracking from the
> > freeze/thaw cycles? Would a control joint on each wall make sense?
> > Thanks, paul
>
> Thanks.
> Basically I don't want the wall to crack. It will sit on a 8 x 16 footer
> at
> the frost line. The wall will be 4 blocks high with 3 below ground. My
> concern was could expansion/contraction from freezing/thawing crack the
> wall? And if so, is there anything I can do to prevent this?
> I'm not sure this would normally happen, so maybe it's not a problem, but
> since I don't know I sent the post. I will use the rebar in the footer and
> at 4' as DanG suggested.
> Thanks,
> Paul

What part of the country do you live in?

Midwest (Indiana)



Posted by PeterD on April 11, 2008, 7:03 pm
wrote:

>
>> Hello, I will build a concrete block wall 4 blocks high for a garage.
>> Three of the courses will be below grade. I want to make this wall as
>> strong as practically possible. (I could not use a poured wall because of
>> access problems). I live in a freeze/thaw area. I want to use some rebar
>> in the cores for strength. Should these cores with rebar be filled with
>> concrete or mortar? Also anything I can do to prevent cracking from the
>> freeze/thaw cycles? Would a control joint on each wall make sense?
>> Thanks, paul
>>
>
>Thanks.
>Basically I don't want the wall to crack. It will sit on a 8 x 16 footer at
>the frost line. The wall will be 4 blocks high with 3 below ground. My
>concern was could expansion/contraction from freezing/thawing crack the
>wall? And if so, is there anything I can do to prevent this?
>I'm not sure this would normally happen, so maybe it's not a problem, but
>since I don't know I sent the post. I will use the rebar in the footer and
>at 4' as DanG suggested.
>Thanks,
>Paul
>

How tall are the blocks? You probably will want the bottom of your
footing about 4.5 to 5 ft down.

Posted by marson on April 12, 2008, 8:07 am
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >> Hello, I will build a concrete block wall 4 blocks high for a garage.
> >> Three of the courses will be below grade. I want to make this wall as
> >> strong as practically possible. (I could not use a poured wall because of
> >> access problems). I live in a freeze/thaw area. I want to use some rebar
> >> in the cores for strength. Should these cores with rebar be filled with
> >> concrete or mortar? Also anything I can do to prevent cracking from the
> >> freeze/thaw cycles? Would a control joint on each wall make sense?
> >> Thanks, paul
>
> >Thanks.
> >Basically I don't want the wall to crack. It will sit on a 8 x 16 footer at
> >the frost line. The wall will be 4 blocks high with 3 below ground. My
> >concern was could expansion/contraction from freezing/thawing crack the
> >wall? And if so, is there anything I can do to prevent this?
> >I'm not sure this would normally happen, so maybe it's not a problem, but
> >since I don't know I sent the post. I will use the rebar in the footer and
> >at 4' as DanG suggested.
> >Thanks,
> >Paul
>
> How tall are the blocks? You probably will want the bottom of your
> footing about 4.5 to 5 ft down.

As long as the bottom of the footings are below code frost depth
(which is certainly shallower than 4.5 to 5' in Indiana!) you should
be fine.

Posted by Glenn on April 12, 2008, 10:52 am

>> footing about 4.5 to 5 ft down.
>
> As long as the bottom of the footings are below code
> frost depth
> (which is certainly shallower than 4.5 to 5' in
> Indiana!) you should
> be fine.

Former Hoosier. 36" should be good for that area.

I wouldn't pour a footing for a doghouse without a
couple #4 rebar's in it.


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