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Posted by tmurf.1@juno.com on April 11, 2008, 2:53 pm
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> > Hello, I will build a concrete block wall 4 blocks high for a garage.
> > Three of the courses will be below grade. =A0I want to make this wall as=
> > strong as practically possible. (I could not use a poured wall because o=
> > access problems). =A0I live in a freeze/thaw area. I want to use some re=
bar
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> > in the cores for strength. =A0Should these cores with rebar be filled wi=
> > concrete or mortar? =A0Also anything I can do to prevent cracking from t=
> > freeze/thaw cycles? =A0Would a control joint on each wall make sense?
> > Thanks, paul
> Thanks.
> Basically I don't want the wall to crack. =A0It will sit on a 8 x 16 foote=
r at
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> the frost line. The wall will be 4 blocks high with 3 below ground. =A0My
> concern was could expansion/contraction from freezing/thawing crack the
> wall? =A0And if so, is there anything I can do to prevent this?
> I'm not sure this would normally happen, so maybe it's not a problem, but
> since I don't know I sent the post. =A0I will use the rebar in the footer =
and
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> at 4' as DanG suggested.
> Thanks,
> Paul
What part of the country do you live in?
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Posted by PaulS on April 11, 2008, 4:43 pm
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> > Hello, I will build a concrete block wall 4 blocks high for a garage.
> > Three of the courses will be below grade. I want to make this wall as
> > strong as practically possible. (I could not use a poured wall because
> > of
> > access problems). I live in a freeze/thaw area. I want to use some rebar
> > in the cores for strength. Should these cores with rebar be filled with
> > concrete or mortar? Also anything I can do to prevent cracking from the
> > freeze/thaw cycles? Would a control joint on each wall make sense?
> > Thanks, paul
> Thanks.
> Basically I don't want the wall to crack. It will sit on a 8 x 16 footer
> at
> the frost line. The wall will be 4 blocks high with 3 below ground. My
> concern was could expansion/contraction from freezing/thawing crack the
> wall? And if so, is there anything I can do to prevent this?
> I'm not sure this would normally happen, so maybe it's not a problem, but
> since I don't know I sent the post. I will use the rebar in the footer and
> at 4' as DanG suggested.
> Thanks,
> Paul
What part of the country do you live in?
Midwest (Indiana)
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Posted by PeterD on April 11, 2008, 7:03 pm
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>> Hello, I will build a concrete block wall 4 blocks high for a garage.
>> Three of the courses will be below grade. I want to make this wall as
>> strong as practically possible. (I could not use a poured wall because of
>> access problems). I live in a freeze/thaw area. I want to use some rebar
>> in the cores for strength. Should these cores with rebar be filled with
>> concrete or mortar? Also anything I can do to prevent cracking from the
>> freeze/thaw cycles? Would a control joint on each wall make sense?
>> Thanks, paul
>Thanks.
>Basically I don't want the wall to crack. It will sit on a 8 x 16 footer at
>the frost line. The wall will be 4 blocks high with 3 below ground. My
>concern was could expansion/contraction from freezing/thawing crack the
>wall? And if so, is there anything I can do to prevent this?
>I'm not sure this would normally happen, so maybe it's not a problem, but
>since I don't know I sent the post. I will use the rebar in the footer and
>at 4' as DanG suggested.
>Thanks,
>Paul
How tall are the blocks? You probably will want the bottom of your
footing about 4.5 to 5 ft down.
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Posted by marson on April 12, 2008, 8:07 am
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> wrote:
> >> Hello, I will build a concrete block wall 4 blocks high for a garage.
> >> Three of the courses will be below grade. I want to make this wall as
> >> strong as practically possible. (I could not use a poured wall because of
> >> access problems). I live in a freeze/thaw area. I want to use some rebar
> >> in the cores for strength. Should these cores with rebar be filled with
> >> concrete or mortar? Also anything I can do to prevent cracking from the
> >> freeze/thaw cycles? Would a control joint on each wall make sense?
> >> Thanks, paul
> >Thanks.
> >Basically I don't want the wall to crack. It will sit on a 8 x 16 footer at
> >the frost line. The wall will be 4 blocks high with 3 below ground. My
> >concern was could expansion/contraction from freezing/thawing crack the
> >wall? And if so, is there anything I can do to prevent this?
> >I'm not sure this would normally happen, so maybe it's not a problem, but
> >since I don't know I sent the post. I will use the rebar in the footer and
> >at 4' as DanG suggested.
> >Thanks,
> >Paul
> How tall are the blocks? You probably will want the bottom of your
> footing about 4.5 to 5 ft down.
As long as the bottom of the footings are below code frost depth
(which is certainly shallower than 4.5 to 5' in Indiana!) you should
be fine.
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Posted by Glenn on April 12, 2008, 10:52 am
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>> footing about 4.5 to 5 ft down.
> As long as the bottom of the footings are below code
> frost depth
> (which is certainly shallower than 4.5 to 5' in
> Indiana!) you should
> be fine.
Former Hoosier. 36" should be good for that area.
I wouldn't pour a footing for a doghouse without a
couple #4 rebar's in it.
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> > Three of the courses will be below grade. =A0I want to make this wall as=
> > strong as practically possible. (I could not use a poured wall because o=
> > access problems). =A0I live in a freeze/thaw area. I want to use some re=