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structured wiring in existing wood frame home RT 08-05-2008
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Posted by RT on August 5, 2008, 6:03 pm


I am adding more structured wiring to an existing home. Home is wood
frame, stucco, tile roof.
I was able to add some cat5 to nearby rooms but it wasn't easy.
previous owner had pulled some sat cable already so I was able to use
that cable to pull my cat5 down.
However, on the other side of the house that seems impossible to reach
thru the attic, there are 2 rooms lacking cable. Would it be ok to add
cat5 and coax on the outside to those rooms ? I don't see any way to
get to it.
Thankfully the basement already has some cat5, but Ideally it could
use 1 more pull. How I would even get to that is beyond me.
The wall in which I want the cat5 to go in the basement has no wall on
the ground floor (above it).

How do you pull cat5 in existing walls, if you do have access above it
? Aren't there horizontal beams in the 2by 6 walls? Can someone point
me to the right tools ?

Thanks
rookie cable puller

Posted by tim on August 6, 2008, 1:28 am



> I am adding more structured wiring to an existing home. Home is
> wood frame, stucco, tile roof.
> I was able to add some cat5 to nearby rooms but it wasn't easy.
> previous owner had pulled some sat cable already so I was able
> to use that cable to pull my cat5 down.
> However, on the other side of the house that seems impossible to
> reach thru the attic, there are 2 rooms lacking cable. Would it
> be ok to add cat5 and coax on the outside to those rooms ? I
> don't see any way to get to it.
> Thankfully the basement already has some cat5, but Ideally it
> could use 1 more pull. How I would even get to that is beyond
> me. The wall in which I want the cat5 to go in the basement has
> no wall on the ground floor (above it).
>
> How do you pull cat5 in existing walls, if you do have access
> above it ? Aren't there horizontal beams in the 2by 6 walls? Can
> someone point me to the right tools ?
>
> Thanks
> rookie cable puller
>

Why pull CAT5? Unless you want/need speeds faster than 100mb/s
wireless will cover the whole are better than fixed jacks, provide
more flexibility of use, can be secured so the neighbors don't get
free internet, and is probably just as cheap as CAT5 is.

As for landlines, a good multi-unit 5.8 cordless works just as well
as real wire. If you are worried about power failures just make
sure you have at least one real handset somewhere so you will still
have use while the power is off. Otherwise, get one of the small
UPS units designed for home use and plug the base into that.

Now, I have to admit that coax would still be a problem. No good
ideas on alternatives here.

As far as how to do if you decide you do need to actually pull
wire, all of the big box hardware stores have whole sections
devoted to strutctured wiring, including all the tools and supplies
needed, as well as nice brochures and books on How To.

BTW, if I were to run some wire outside on a stucco house, I would
run it along the bottom of the sillplate behind the bottom drip
edge of the stucco for as long as possible. Remember, with the
right paint coax and CAT5 can be painted to match almost any color.
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Posted by Art on August 6, 2008, 7:07 pm


tim wrote:
>
>> I am adding more structured wiring to an existing home. Home is
>> wood frame, stucco, tile roof.
>> I was able to add some cat5 to nearby rooms but it wasn't easy.
>> previous owner had pulled some sat cable already so I was able
>> to use that cable to pull my cat5 down.
>> However, on the other side of the house that seems impossible to
>> reach thru the attic, there are 2 rooms lacking cable. Would it
>> be ok to add cat5 and coax on the outside to those rooms ? I
>> don't see any way to get to it.
>> Thankfully the basement already has some cat5, but Ideally it
>> could use 1 more pull. How I would even get to that is beyond
>> me. The wall in which I want the cat5 to go in the basement has
>> no wall on the ground floor (above it).
>>
>> How do you pull cat5 in existing walls, if you do have access
>> above it ? Aren't there horizontal beams in the 2by 6 walls? Can
>> someone point me to the right tools ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> rookie cable puller
>>
>
> Why pull CAT5? Unless you want/need speeds faster than 100mb/s
> wireless will cover the whole are better than fixed jacks, provide
> more flexibility of use, can be secured so the neighbors don't get
> free internet, and is probably just as cheap as CAT5 is.

Bullshit. Wireless cannot approach the speed or reliability of wired.
Wireless is ok, it is certainly not better than wired in any respect
except that it is easier to install.

--
Art

Posted by Steve Barker DLT on August 6, 2008, 7:22 pm


at best, an internet connection MIGHT be 10Mb/s. Seems to me that 54 is
more than 10. So unless you're actually transferring files within your own
network , you'll never need the wire for the speed.

s



>
> Bullshit. Wireless cannot approach the speed or reliability of wired.
> Wireless is ok, it is certainly not better than wired in any respect
> except that it is easier to install.
>
> --
> Art



Posted by SteveBell on August 6, 2008, 11:51 pm


Steve Barker DLT wrote:

>
> > Bullshit. Wireless cannot approach the speed or reliability of
> > wired. Wireless is ok, it is certainly not better than wired in
> > any respect except that it is easier to install.
>
> at best, an internet connection MIGHT be 10Mb/s. Seems to me that 54
> is more than 10. So unless you're actually transferring files within
> your own network , you'll never need the wire for the speed.

Except that wireless connections seldom meet their rated throughput,
the throughput being measured under lab conditions that don't exist in
the real world. And all wireless connections aren't 54 Mbps. Mine runs
about 3.2 Mbps, and I'm ten feet away. My wired connection is about 87
Mbps. If I could pry my wallet loose and buy a gigabit router, my wired
connection would speed up by a factor of 10. I transfer files within my
own network all the time. My bookkeeping file is about 40 MB. I can't
use it wirelessly.

Having structured wiring is a great selling point when you put your
house on the market.

--
Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX

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