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watching construction via the net? Les 09-27-2006
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Posted by Glenn on September 27, 2006, 9:58 pm
My last comment on it. We are beating the dead horse now.

I wouldn't care if he spent his whole time on the job. I wouldn't
care if he hired his own flunky to watch it and count nails.

I feel a video camera would be *insulting* and would turn down the
job I always had a waiting list of 3 to 6 months. I would feel
he was looking for something to sue down the road for something
that doesn't mean a hill of beans. Simple matter of trust. If he
don't trust me, I sure as hell wouldn't trust him. Fini


> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:08:39 +0000, Glenn wrote:
>
> > I wonder what the mortality rate of the cameras would
> > be. 2 x 12 joists falling on them, ladders falling on
> > them, trash bags over them to 'protect' them, hammers
> > that slipped out of the guys hand and flew wild? <G>
> >
>
> Mine will be up on a pole outside the house connected via
> wireless DSL internet. Pretty safe from accidents. Safety
> from vandalism depends on the neighborhood, in my case I
> feel pretty confident.
>
> To answer a bunch of the other posts -- my general
> contractor welcomes this idea. It is a way for him to
> monitor the site while he is not there. (Is someone
> making off with lumber, tools, supplies?) He has as much
> to loose as I do as the materials are his responsibility,
> not mine, during the construction process. This is not a
> way for me to check up on the general contrctor. I
> consider him mostly a partner in this enterprise or I
> woudn't have hired him.
>
> If any subcontractor was caught vandalizing the camera he
> knows he
> would be cutting into his livelyhood as the general
> contractor would drop him like a hot rock.
>
> Bob


Posted by HockeyFan on September 27, 2006, 10:51 pm
Beat whatever dead horse you feel you need to.
Back to my original question,..
for those who aren't threatened, can anyone other than the one guy that
gave a reasonable response, tell about cameras you've used.
By the way, there are builders that provide this service. If you feel
insulted, just be insulted and don't respond. If you don't have any
experience on the topic, just don't respond. It's a waste of your time
and a waste of mine. I'm wanting to know about reasonably priced
internet-ready cameras that can be viewed remotely (from time to time
so that I can check in at various stages of construction (since I am
the one paying the bill). For those who are rich enough to turn down
the job, more power to them. For the ones that take the job, they know
the camera will be there on certain days, because I want to see how
certain tricky things go, and if there are problems, I want to find out
about it before it costs me too much money.
I work side by side with these guys, and having the camera there is no
different from when I'm there on site watching.

Glenn wrote:
> My last comment on it. We are beating the dead horse now.
>
> I wouldn't care if he spent his whole time on the job. I wouldn't
> care if he hired his own flunky to watch it and count nails.
>
> I feel a video camera would be *insulting* and would turn down the
> job I always had a waiting list of 3 to 6 months. I would feel
> he was looking for something to sue down the road for something
> that doesn't mean a hill of beans. Simple matter of trust. If he
> don't trust me, I sure as hell wouldn't trust him. Fini
>
>
> > On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:08:39 +0000, Glenn wrote:
> >
> > > I wonder what the mortality rate of the cameras would
> > > be. 2 x 12 joists falling on them, ladders falling on
> > > them, trash bags over them to 'protect' them, hammers
> > > that slipped out of the guys hand and flew wild? <G>
> > >
> >
> > Mine will be up on a pole outside the house connected via
> > wireless DSL internet. Pretty safe from accidents. Safety
> > from vandalism depends on the neighborhood, in my case I
> > feel pretty confident.
> >
> > To answer a bunch of the other posts -- my general
> > contractor welcomes this idea. It is a way for him to
> > monitor the site while he is not there. (Is someone
> > making off with lumber, tools, supplies?) He has as much
> > to loose as I do as the materials are his responsibility,
> > not mine, during the construction process. This is not a
> > way for me to check up on the general contrctor. I
> > consider him mostly a partner in this enterprise or I
> > woudn't have hired him.
> >
> > If any subcontractor was caught vandalizing the camera he
> > knows he
> > would be cutting into his livelyhood as the general
> > contractor would drop him like a hot rock.
> >
> > Bob


Posted by Art on September 29, 2006, 8:58 pm
HockeyFan wrote:

> Beat whatever dead horse you feel you need to.
> Back to my original question,..
> for those who aren't threatened, can anyone other than the one guy that
> gave a reasonable response, tell about cameras you've used.
> By the way, there are builders that provide this service. If you feel
> insulted, just be insulted and don't respond. If you don't have any
> experience on the topic, just don't respond. It's a waste of your time
> and a waste of mine. I'm wanting to know about reasonably priced

This is usenet. Grow a thicker skin and learn to ignore posts. You
cannot control others replies, good, bad or otherwise.

--
Art

Posted by Woodenhead on September 30, 2006, 10:29 pm
Would it not be easier to go over in the evening and take a lok at
things or durring the day if you want. If your are worried about how
people do ther job be there pounding nails with them
Bob wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:08:39 +0000, Glenn wrote:
>
> > I wonder what the mortality rate of the cameras would be. 2 x 12
> > joists falling on them, ladders falling on them, trash bags over
> > them to 'protect' them, hammers that slipped out of the guys hand
> > and flew wild? <G>
> >
>
> Mine will be up on a pole outside the house connected via wireless DSL
> internet. Pretty safe from accidents. Safety from vandalism depends on the
> neighborhood, in my case I feel pretty confident.
>
> To answer a bunch of the other posts -- my general contractor welcomes
> this idea. It is a way for him to monitor the site while he is not there.
> (Is someone making off with lumber, tools, supplies?) He has as much
> to loose as I do as the materials are his responsibility, not mine, during
> the construction process. This is not a way for me to check up on the
> general contrctor. I consider him mostly a partner in this enterprise or I
> woudn't have hired him.
>
> If any subcontractor was caught vandalizing the camera he knows he
> would be cutting into his livelyhood as the general contractor would drop
> him like a hot rock.
>
> Bob


Posted by Bob on September 30, 2006, 11:32 pm
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 19:29:02 -0700, Woodenhead wrote:

> Would it not be easier to go over in the evening and take a lok at
> things or durring the day if you want. If your are worried about how
> people do ther job be there pounding nails with them

I already have a day job. The construction site is 25 miles away. The GC
has multiple jobs going at sites even more dispersed. With an on-site
camera the site can be monitored in a few seconds w/o driving an hour to
get to it.

Of course both the GC and I will go to the site quite often and there
are things that a quick look at the web-cam won't help with but if you are
just wondering if a certain sub contractor showed up yet or if the stack
of lumber is still there or if a delivery has been made, etc. etc. the
camera can make life simpler.

Also, the camera has a motion detector that can be activated at night.

Bob

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