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whats best water pump for homemade suds-saver from laundry tub bent 04-14-2007
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Posted by bent on April 14, 2007, 4:04 pm
I used to have a washing machine that could save the warm soapy water from
one washing cycle and re-use it for the next cycle. Now I don't have that
machine any more, I wonder if I can hook up a water pump and a switch: to
pump all the warm soapy water out of one of the double laundry sinks & back
into the washing machine. What kind of pump can I use. It doesn't have to
be a sump pump, it need not have a switch; because I can hook up hose and an
electrical on/off control switch to otherwise permanently on wiring/switch.
I could even get a motor from something like a power drill (or a garage sale
drill), and mount it all under the sink, where there is lots of room
generally. I am not sure how long it would take, i.e. what kind of g.p.m.
of the pump should be, the faster the better. Any suggestions where to get
the component of such a water pump? I would prefer to really keep the cost
down.



I only know rec.woodworking and this group, which I treat as building &/or
constructing, and know of no other place to put is type of Q at the moment.



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Posted by PeterD on April 14, 2007, 7:13 pm

>I used to have a washing machine that could save the warm soapy water from
>one washing cycle and re-use it for the next cycle. Now I don't have that
>machine any more, I wonder if I can hook up a water pump and a switch: to
>pump all the warm soapy water out of one of the double laundry sinks & back
>into the washing machine. What kind of pump can I use. It doesn't have to
>be a sump pump, it need not have a switch; because I can hook up hose and an
>electrical on/off control switch to otherwise permanently on wiring/switch.
>I could even get a motor from something like a power drill (or a garage sale
>drill), and mount it all under the sink, where there is lots of room
>generally. I am not sure how long it would take, i.e. what kind of g.p.m.
>of the pump should be, the faster the better. Any suggestions where to get
>the component of such a water pump? I would prefer to really keep the cost
>down.
>
>
>
>I only know rec.woodworking and this group, which I treat as building &/or
>constructing, and know of no other place to put is type of Q at the moment.
>

Way OT, but...

You'd have to substantially modify the washer (so it has two water
inputs, one for wash/rinse, one for recycled wash water (when
available). You'd need a pump, and some form of storage tank (lot's of
poly tanks fit the bill here). Since the washer would need to know if
there was recycled water available for a wash cycle, you'd need some
form of intelligence there. Then you need some way to prevent a double
reuse fo wash water (or are you going to reuse forever? <g>)

In the end, you will need a controller (I frequently deal with
industrial process controllers--very similar applications) which will
nto be easy to make or cheap to buy... The the associated plumbing,
pumps, tanks, etc, to boot.

End result will be that it will cost *much* more than using fresh
water and soap, both in basic costs and operating costs. Add to that
the idea that that second batch of cloths proably won't be clean
enough makes me wonder if this type of project makes any sense at all?
but if you must, start by looking (eBay?) for a used industrial
process controller system. It would need a few inputs and a few
outputs (say perhaps 4 inputs, and 4 outputs, but maybe more.) Oh, and
relays, and associated circuitry too...


Posted by Glenn on April 14, 2007, 8:16 pm
One, it would be a mickey mouse setup.

Two, even if you did hook it up it would take two lifetimes to
break even with the cost versus the saving not to mention you are
using dirty water.


>I used to have a washing machine that could save the warm soapy
>water from one washing cycle and re-use it for the next cycle.
>Now I don't have that machine any more, I wonder if I can hook up
>a water pump and a switch: to pump all the warm soapy water out
>of one of the double laundry sinks & back into the washing
>machine. What kind of pump can I use. It doesn't have to be a
>sump pump, it need not have a switch; because I can hook up hose
>and an electrical on/off control switch to otherwise permanently
>on wiring/switch. I could even get a motor from something like a
>power drill (or a garage sale drill), and mount it all under the
>sink, where there is lots of room generally. I am not sure how
>long it would take, i.e. what kind of g.p.m. of the pump should
>be, the faster the better. Any suggestions where to get the
>component of such a water pump? I would prefer to really keep
>the cost down.
>
>
>
> I only know rec.woodworking and this group, which I treat as
> building &/or constructing, and know of no other place to put is
> type of Q at the moment.
>
>
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Posted by bent on April 15, 2007, 1:26 pm
1) I am really sick of seeing 6 wet buckets over a grate on the second tub
2) I am really sick of seeing 6 wet buckets over a grate on the second tub
3) I have actually built/constructing something of a entirely finished
basement

The first thing thing that comes to mind is the power-hand-drill powered
pump you attach clear plastic hose to, but in order to get rid of the
buckets, the speed probably has to be increased beyond that flow. It is a
better system, but if its still too slow, the buckets will stay, which is
bad. So you see the problem.



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Posted by bent on April 16, 2007, 12:56 pm
I could get a used pool pump for $50. 1-1/2" hose faster than a garden hose.
take about 5 seconds to empty the tub. I actually used one once to pump out
a backyard; one usually circulating 100 000L of water. I had to put thick
sheets of steel down in order not to dig a hole to China. rip your arm
right off! it put a pronounced crease in heavy gage steel from the suction.
Maybe one from an above ground pool?



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