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wood or stone? beliavsky 08-26-2006
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Posted by Steve on August 26, 2006, 10:11 pm
Your 2 x 4 or 2 x 6 is not made from old growth. Most lumber, 99.9%, comes
from tree farms.

Sone and concrete are used where it is the tradition and readily available
> >>>In some countries, stone houses are common. In the U.S.
> >>>most homes are built with wood. Why?
> >>
> > I am thinking lumber is a lot more expensive in europe?
>
> Right... all the "old growth forests" were removed from Europe centuries
> ago. Once ours are all gone we'll be using steel and concrete. There
> is already a tiny amount of "steel stud" construction around... you can
> buy the studs at Home Despot now.
>
> Reminds me, I saw some oak plywood in there this week that was stamped
> "China". Do we send our oak over there to be glued into plywood? Or do
> the Chinese still have oak forests?
>
>
>



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Posted by Ron on August 27, 2006, 8:05 am
I'm confused...if are you writing from Germany (@ergebnis.de) then steel
studs may be new.

If you are in the U.S., then your statement "a tiny amount of "steel stud"
construction around" is out of date. Steel studs have been the mainstay of
construction in South Florida for over thirty years.

>>>>In some countries, stone houses are common. In the U.S.
>>>>most homes are built with wood. Why?
>>>
>> I am thinking lumber is a lot more expensive in europe?
>
> Right... all the "old growth forests" were removed from Europe centuries
> ago. Once ours are all gone we'll be using steel and concrete. There is
> already a tiny amount of "steel stud" construction around... you can buy
> the studs at Home Despot now.
>
> Reminds me, I saw some oak plywood in there this week that was stamped
> "China". Do we send our oak over there to be glued into plywood? Or do
> the Chinese still have oak forests?
>
>
>
>



Posted by PPS on August 28, 2006, 3:26 pm
Asia has vast forests of hardwood (and we helped them to develop the plants.
Soon, they'll out produce us!)
Unrelated, but interesting, the Japanese have special ships that take on
hardwood in the Philippines and sail directly for the US (perhaps China
now). Anyway, by the time they get here, it's plywood! Been doing this since
the 70's as far as I know.


> Reminds me, I saw some oak plywood in there this week that was stamped
> "China". Do we send our oak over there to be glued into plywood? Or do
> the Chinese still have oak forests?
>
>
>



Posted by Judanne on August 29, 2006, 5:04 am
And Tasmania is destroying its old-growth forests by turning them into wood
chips for paper pulp which is exported to Japan for less cost than we can
buy them here - and then they are sold back to us as imported paper. Note
that the Japanese don't want to cut down their own hardwood forests, but
don't mind buying ours. Of course the idiots that sell it to them are also
to blame. Right now there is a determined and controversial campaign being
waged by the largest forestry producer in the state, Gunns, to establish a
pulp mill in the Tamar Valley. As well as decimating whatever trees are
left, our drinking water is to be diverted to the mill at our expense (both
physically and financially). With global warming becoming more and more
evident in this part of the world and with our dams (which produce our
hydroelectric power) at less than 1/3 full at the end of winter, it's not
looking good.

Judanne
Tasmania

> Asia has vast forests of hardwood (and we helped them to develop the
> plants. Soon, they'll out produce us!)
> Unrelated, but interesting, the Japanese have special ships that take on
> hardwood in the Philippines and sail directly for the US (perhaps China
> now). Anyway, by the time they get here, it's plywood! Been doing this
> since the 70's as far as I know.



Posted by Jonny on August 26, 2006, 9:32 pm
> In some countries, stone houses are common. In the U.S. most homes are
> built with wood. Why?
>

Perhaps because their forests have long since been depleted.
Perhaps this side of the ocean, stone masons expertise is too expensive for
something as large as a home. Stone quarrying is not that expensive. Ask
your architect why he/she prefers standard wooden walls vice solid stone.

Stone and concrete buildings are common where there is virtually no trees to
speak of.
--
Jonny



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