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11 year old Goodman - should I repair or replace? Myhvacisdead 08-18-2006
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Posted by Travis Jordan on August 19, 2006, 3:49 pm
Myhvacisdead wrote:
> Thank you all for your comments.
> The owner of the shop that's been working on my system recommended I
> get an electrician to diagnose the short.
> I called another shop that has an electrician on staff but they
> thought I'd be better off with a HVAC person they have on staff who
> has a good electrical troubleshooting background. They're sending
> him on Thursday. If he can fix it, wonderful. If he can't, they say
> I don't have to pay for the call.

That's a good deal.

Your original contractor is screwing you over if they charge you for
more than one replacement board. It is THEIR problem to locate and fix
the short, not just keep changing parts..... what a hack!



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Posted by She-Hate-Me on August 19, 2006, 11:33 am

> Hello,
>
> I have a 11 year old Goodman gas furnace

Shitcan it.



Posted by tech on August 20, 2006, 12:04 am
HVAC-Talk . com

They love to answer questions like this!


> Hello,
>
> I have a 11 year old Goodman gas furnace (model gmp125-5) with a 3 ton
> central air unit (southern Pennsylvania).
> The a/c quit working a few weeks ago. I had a serviceman come out and
> he said the control board had burn spots on it. He put in a new
> control board, turned on the system, it ran for about 1 minute and then
> burnt up the replacement board.
> I was told that the thermostat (basic round dial one) could be causing
> a short so I put in a digital programmable thermostat. They put in a
> second control board. The tech was going to turn on the a/c again and
> I said let's just turn the blower fan from auto to on first and see how
> that works. We did that and the control board burnt out again after
> 1/2 minute or so. He tested the wires from the thermostat to the
> control board and there was no short in them.
>
> The control boards are $170 each and my repair bill so far is close to
> $500. I've called several hvac shops in the area and the general
> concensus is that troubleshooting a short in the system could be quite
> costly and considering the system is 11 years old, it would be better
> to replace it.
> Thoughts/Comments?
>
> My second question is this: How much should it cost (ballpark) for a
> new natural gas furnace and central air system? My house is ~2600 sq
> ft, 2 floors. I had an Amana supplier come out and do a engineering
> analysis. She said the 3 ton a/c unit is too small for my house and
> that I should have a 4 ton unit.
> She gave me quotes on new systems and I'm in shock at the price quotes,
> which range from $6500 for a system with the cheapest parts (13 seer
> a/c with 5 yr compressor warranty, 80% gas furnace) all the way to
> $11,000 for a 16 seer a/c with lifetime compressor/10 yr parts and a
> 96% gas furnace with variable speed blower and lifetime heat exchanger.
>
> I was hoping I could get a efficient system for $5000-$6000 installed.
> Are the high-efficiency furnace and a/c units really that much more
> expensive and/or more involved to install - or is this place charging a
> premium to install the high-end components?
>
> Thanks ahead of time for any guidance you can offer!!!
>



Posted by Myhvacisdead on August 20, 2006, 10:16 am
Thanks.
I'm checking this out now.

And thanks for all the other comments. I figured I was on the hook for
one board but not both. I'm extra confident in that idea now.


tech wrote:
> HVAC-Talk . com
>
> They love to answer questions like this!
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have a 11 year old Goodman gas furnace (model gmp125-5) with a 3 ton
> > central air unit (southern Pennsylvania).
> > The a/c quit working a few weeks ago. I had a serviceman come out and
> > he said the control board had burn spots on it. He put in a new
> > control board, turned on the system, it ran for about 1 minute and then
> > burnt up the replacement board.
> > I was told that the thermostat (basic round dial one) could be causing
> > a short so I put in a digital programmable thermostat. They put in a
> > second control board. The tech was going to turn on the a/c again and
> > I said let's just turn the blower fan from auto to on first and see how
> > that works. We did that and the control board burnt out again after
> > 1/2 minute or so. He tested the wires from the thermostat to the
> > control board and there was no short in them.
> >
> > The control boards are $170 each and my repair bill so far is close to
> > $500. I've called several hvac shops in the area and the general
> > concensus is that troubleshooting a short in the system could be quite
> > costly and considering the system is 11 years old, it would be better
> > to replace it.
> > Thoughts/Comments?
> >
> > My second question is this: How much should it cost (ballpark) for a
> > new natural gas furnace and central air system? My house is ~2600 sq
> > ft, 2 floors. I had an Amana supplier come out and do a engineering
> > analysis. She said the 3 ton a/c unit is too small for my house and
> > that I should have a 4 ton unit.
> > She gave me quotes on new systems and I'm in shock at the price quotes,
> > which range from $6500 for a system with the cheapest parts (13 seer
> > a/c with 5 yr compressor warranty, 80% gas furnace) all the way to
> > $11,000 for a 16 seer a/c with lifetime compressor/10 yr parts and a
> > 96% gas furnace with variable speed blower and lifetime heat exchanger.
> >
> > I was hoping I could get a efficient system for $5000-$6000 installed.
> > Are the high-efficiency furnace and a/c units really that much more
> > expensive and/or more involved to install - or is this place charging a
> > premium to install the high-end components?
> >
> > Thanks ahead of time for any guidance you can offer!!!
> >


Posted by Al Moran on August 20, 2006, 10:52 am
wrote:

>Thanks.
>I'm checking this out now.
>
>And thanks for all the other comments. I figured I was on the hook for
>one board but not both. I'm extra confident in that idea now.
>


If you had any balls you would not need to get assurances from people
you don't even know off the internet. Grow a pair man!

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