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Posted by Joseph Coulter on August 8, 2006, 6:55 pm
I just got my second opinion for a replacement heat pump (live in N
Florida) the first guy looked at all my duct work, the lines to the
condensor unit and asked a lot of questions. He ended up recommneding a
Carrier 4ton infinity series heat pump with Puron. He made a fairly
detailed drawing of the ductwork including some changes that he felt were
necessary above and beyond the adding of a cold air return from the master
bedroom suite. He specifically noted that the duct work leading away form
the uit looked undersized (the box is smaller than the existing air
handler)
So today guy two comes out looks at things asks a few questions gets on the
phone to his office and comes up with a price that is $4000 less for a
Carrier unit. I know a no brainer, but all his estimate says is Carrier 14
seer. . . he says duct work but i don't see it. duh call his boss and get
it in writing but how to know how far apart the bids are in reality
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Joseph Coulter
Cruises and Vacations
http://www.josephcoulter.com/
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Posted by geoman on August 8, 2006, 7:54 pm
>I just got my second opinion for a replacement heat pump (live in N
> Florida) the first guy looked at all my duct work, the lines to the
> condensor unit and asked a lot of questions. He ended up recommneding a
> Carrier 4ton infinity series heat pump with Puron. He made a fairly
> detailed drawing of the ductwork including some changes that he felt were
> necessary above and beyond the adding of a cold air return from the master
> bedroom suite. He specifically noted that the duct work leading away form
> the uit looked undersized (the box is smaller than the existing air
> handler)
> So today guy two comes out looks at things asks a few questions gets on
> the
> phone to his office and comes up with a price that is $4000 less for a
> Carrier unit. I know a no brainer, but all his estimate says is Carrier 14
> seer. . . he says duct work but i don't see it. duh call his boss and get
> it in writing but how to know how far apart the bids are in reality
> --
> Joseph Coulter
> Cruises and Vacations
> http://www.josephcoulter.com/
I'm going to be nice to you because you helped me on a vacation one time, if
its the same dude that posts on alt.cruise
Anyway, you have a problem here. Just because the guy didn't mention
everything doesn't mean that he isn't going to do a good job, he may have a
daughter getting married this weekend and is in a hurry to get this week
over!!
So, you need to call him up and ask specific quesitons.
1. Whats included in ductwork
2. What level of microns does he consider good, if he stumbles around on
that quesiton hang up! Don't say another word except 'goodbye' and call the
other guy! If he says a number ask to see the micron gauge, seriously, most
techs don't have them let alone know what they even are.
3. What did the heat loss/gain come up to with each? It sounds like the
second guy didn't do one, but he might if he gets the job so its hard to
tell if he's cutting this important process.
4 Ask what he uses to braze with, stay bright, Dynaflow, silver solder. If
he says stay bright, HANG up
5..Ask him for his license number and drive down to the inspectors and find
out what the requirements are for changing out a system, Is a heat loss/gain
required? Permit? is this guy in good standing with the city/state?
This is a lot of $$ difference, its difficult to even begin to believe that
the cheaper guy knows what their doing. You have to ask for customers names
and then go and talk with them and LOOK at that jobs. People who are
satisfied won't let you in there places, but dis satisfied will drap you in
to show you the mess they make!
good luck
Hey, whats the best cruise buy for November/December this year? I want to
take my wife on another . We were on the Facination two years ago which was
OK. We like the shows and Cozamel, grand cayman stuff.
Rich
>
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Posted by geoman on August 8, 2006, 8:05 pm
There are some good contractors on this group that might vacation down there
in Florida.... or even live there. Maybe you can barter !!!
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Posted by Moe Jones on August 8, 2006, 8:18 pm
Good Advice!
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Moe Jones
HVAC Service Technician
Energy Equalizers Inc.
Houston, Texas
> I'm going to be nice to you because you helped me on a vacation one time,
> if its the same dude that posts on alt.cruise
> Anyway, you have a problem here. Just because the guy didn't mention
> everything doesn't mean that he isn't going to do a good job, he may have
> a daughter getting married this weekend and is in a hurry to get this week
> over!!
> So, you need to call him up and ask specific quesitons.
> 1. Whats included in ductwork
> 2. What level of microns does he consider good, if he stumbles around on
> that quesiton hang up! Don't say another word except 'goodbye' and call
> the other guy! If he says a number ask to see the micron gauge, seriously,
> most techs don't have them let alone know what they even are.
> 3. What did the heat loss/gain come up to with each? It sounds like the
> second guy didn't do one, but he might if he gets the job so its hard to
> tell if he's cutting this important process.
> 4 Ask what he uses to braze with, stay bright, Dynaflow, silver solder.
> If he says stay bright, HANG up
> 5..Ask him for his license number and drive down to the inspectors and
> find out what the requirements are for changing out a system, Is a heat
> loss/gain required? Permit? is this guy in good standing with the
> city/state?
> This is a lot of $$ difference, its difficult to even begin to believe
> that the cheaper guy knows what their doing. You have to ask for customers
> names and then go and talk with them and LOOK at that jobs. People who are
> satisfied won't let you in there places, but dis satisfied will drap you
> in to show you the mess they make!
> good luck
> Hey, whats the best cruise buy for November/December this year? I want to
> take my wife on another . We were on the Facination two years ago which
> was OK. We like the shows and Cozamel, grand cayman stuff.
> Rich
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Posted by Stormin Mormon on August 8, 2006, 8:35 pm
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=stay+brite+8+&hl=en&btnG=Search+Froogle
Written by a man who neither uses, nor reads the box on Stay-Brite?
--
Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
.
. If
he says stay bright, HANG up
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> Florida) the first guy looked at all my duct work, the lines to the
> condensor unit and asked a lot of questions. He ended up recommneding a
> Carrier 4ton infinity series heat pump with Puron. He made a fairly
> detailed drawing of the ductwork including some changes that he felt were
> necessary above and beyond the adding of a cold air return from the master
> bedroom suite. He specifically noted that the duct work leading away form
> the uit looked undersized (the box is smaller than the existing air
> handler)
> So today guy two comes out looks at things asks a few questions gets on
> the
> phone to his office and comes up with a price that is $4000 less for a
> Carrier unit. I know a no brainer, but all his estimate says is Carrier 14
> seer. . . he says duct work but i don't see it. duh call his boss and get
> it in writing but how to know how far apart the bids are in reality
> --
> Joseph Coulter
> Cruises and Vacations
> http://www.josephcoulter.com/